KTs - EP

JJack · #1 06-30-2007, 06:22 AM

CO: 44/22/0.74 - 45 hands

0.15/0.30 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.7 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero calls, 4 folds, CO calls, 2 folds, BB checks.

Flop: (3.47 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, CO calls.

<ul type="square">Unraised pot, I have limped at early possition so probably represent better hand then late limper, Im first to act and with my strong OESD and backdoor flush start to press.
After raise I decide that my opponent could be at flush draw possilby (but I dont know if he was he would be cut of 3rd player - he would probably just call with his flush draw) or he has top/middle pair.

Is 3bet good here?
Or better give him initiative and play c/c to river?[/list]Turn: (4.73 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

River: (6.73 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets, CO folds.

Final Pot: 7.73 BB

slicer65 · #2 06-30-2007, 07:22 AM

with the flush draw on the board you only have 8 outs. I dont like the bet in early position, especially with such a small pot. Not a good value bet. As played, I would call the raise with pot odds on the flop.

b1grich · #3 06-30-2007, 07:28 AM

fold PF ... anyone else

slicer65 · #4 06-30-2007, 07:34 AM

Strictly speaking yes. But if the table is loose and passive, especially with a lot of limpers, this hand has +EV.

NIX · #5 06-30-2007, 09:41 AM

I bet the flop myself, but I don't 3-bet it OOP. CO is on the passive side postflop, so I wouldn't be expecting him to pump a flush draw. Plus, 3-betting the flop kinda means you have to bet the turn, and that would result in you probably putting a lot of money into the pot when most likely behind. Since you did 3-bet the flop, bet the turn as you did.

kerowo · #6 06-30-2007, 09:56 AM

I don't mind pre-flop, I'm fond of suited broadways and try to stay away from tables where it's super tight.

I don't care for the 3-bet pre-flop because despite the hugeness of your draw you still aren't going to win without improving and aren't going to improve often enough. If there were more people in maybe.

If I was feeling fancy I would go for the c/r on the river, your flop play looks a like a flush draw.

JJack · #7 06-30-2007, 10:19 AM

kerowo how about bet flop?

KitCloudkicker · #8 06-30-2007, 10:23 AM

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fold PF ... anyone else

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try to avoid tables where folding here is the correct play

kerowo · #9 06-30-2007, 10:34 AM

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kerowo how about bet flop?

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I tend to bet these draws on flops because I'd hate it to be checked through. The 3-bet isn't good though.

Xhad · #10 06-30-2007, 10:40 AM

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I tend to bet these draws on flops because I'd hate it to be checked through.

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Why do you hate this getting checked through 3handed?