Foxwoods on Saturday

CraigNY · #1 03-05-2007, 04:09 PM

I played at the Foxwoods WPT poker room for the first time this past Saturday. The table action (one I was seated) was fantastic (including a very drunk girl who bet $50 of her $67 stack on the river and then folded to a raise), but actually getting seated at a 1/2 table was a nightmare.

We showed up at 3pm and the waiting list was 275 people deep. We played one of the huge rake sit-n-go's (comprised almost entirely of people waiting to be seated at cash tables) and when we were done about an hour and a half later we were still 170th in line. We decided to play another sit-n-go since it looked like it would be hours until we got seated. After paying for the sit-n-go, but before it started, the poker room suddenly announced the opening of a slew of new 1/2 tables, and our names were called. But because you cannot get a refund for a registered SNG, we had to play at 1/2 for about 20 minutes and then leave or forfeit the $120 we paid for the sit-n-go (and, of course, we had to get back into line once again for the 1/2 game, at about 100th position). After the sit-n-go (again, about an hour and a half later, we waited another 2 1/2 hours to be seated at 1/2.

This brings to mind a couple of questions for the Foxwoods regulars:

(1) Is every Saturday like this? If so, what time in the morning should I go to get seated within a reasonable amount of time?

(2) Is there a particular time that a bunch of 1/2 tables are added (due to a new dealer shift or some other factor I am unaware of)? The above mentioned table openings happened around 6pm.

(3) Why does the casino bother with the sit-n-go's when they could open all those tables for 1/2 on a Saturday. The 1/2 tables pay, at $5 per half hour per player, $1,000 an hour to the casino while the sit-n-gos pay $200 for about an hour and a half. All those tables being converted to cash games would shorten the waiting list considerably, making the clientele happier as well.

(4) What stakes does Survivor's Boston Rob play and is he any good? (ok, that was off-topic, but he was there Saturday)

jba · #2 03-05-2007, 04:25 PM

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But because you cannot get a refund for a registered SNG, we had to play at 1/2 for about 20 minutes and then leave or forfeit the $120 we paid for the sit-n-go (and, of course, we had to get back into line once again for the 1/2 game, at about 100th position).

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should have gone on dinner reseating. go up to the desk and ask to be put on dinner reseating, and you have two hours to come back and sign back up. when you do, you're second on the list.

1) saturdays have been crazy lately. a couple weeks ago I waited five hours for a 20/40 minbet holdem seat.

2) probably an influx of dealers or a tournament finished.

3) not everyone that plays the sngs would play 1/2. also the flexibility of the sngs allow them to host as many act tournaments as they can fill. I suspect these are a goldmine because they're effectively quadruple+ raking these (I don't actually know that for a fact)

TheGrifter · #3 03-05-2007, 04:38 PM

Not sure if this is still the case but you used to be able to call ahead and put your name on the list.

blee24 · #4 03-05-2007, 04:42 PM

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(3) Why does the casino bother with the sit-n-go's when they could open all those tables for 1/2 on a Saturday. The 1/2 tables pay, at $5 per half hour per player, $1,000 an hour to the casino while the sit-n-gos pay $200 for about an hour and a half. All those tables being converted to cash games would shorten the waiting list considerably, making the clientele happier as well.

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I think you made a small math error here. $5 per half hour = $10 per hour per player. With 10 players at a table, thats $100 per hour, not $1000. If they're making $200 for 1.5 hours at a SNG table, then thats more than they make at a 1/2 table.

CraigNY · #5 03-05-2007, 05:01 PM

You are correct and that's why I'm a lawyer and not an accountant. And not a "small" error, either. Oops.

zer0 · #6 03-05-2007, 05:10 PM

i dont know if its normal, but i was there on sunday and heard more than one conversation from dealers/regulars/floor about how jammed up it was. i'd assume it was busier than normal.

spacemanspiff · #7 03-05-2007, 05:30 PM

I realize that stud is "a dying game" but the last time I was there on a Saturday I sat down at a low-limit stud game within about 5 minutes of signing up. Anyone know if that's normal or if I just caught a slow day?

As for playing stud, maybe it's just me but sitting at a table with 7 grumpy old people beats sitting at one with 6 Hollywooding 22 year olds any day of the year.

jba · #8 03-05-2007, 05:48 PM

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Not sure if this is still the case but you used to be able to call ahead and put your name on the list.

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on weekends you can for 20/40+. I'm not sure about NL, but I've seen call ups on the 5/10 list and never seen them on the 2/5 list, so I assume it is 5/10+.

jad14 · #9 03-05-2007, 07:20 PM

No call aheads for 1/2 or 2/5 NL.

I was there on Sunday at 11am and there were lists for most games. I believe a 50/100 NL game was going all day on Sunday.

cmurl904 · #10 03-05-2007, 07:22 PM

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As for playing stud, maybe it's just me but sitting at a table with 7 grumpy old people beats sitting at one with 6 Hollywooding 22 year olds any day of the year.

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Amen... This is why I mostly play stud & limit HE, and not 1/2 NL.