The situation at English Harbour (+Free Bonus Link)

[hita]

omg that is so scary [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] that poor guy who lost all that money and couldnt pay for the funeral [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

gambling really scares me sometimes

[LinusKS]

The CIA says the GDP per capita is 10k. Doesn't strike me as particularly poor by 3rd world standards. So what's it like?

[Punker]

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The CIA says the GDP per capita is 10k. Doesn't strike me as particularly poor by 3rd world standards. So what's it like?

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It's not the richest place in the world, but it has good areas and bad areas, like anywhere else. His description of the Del Rey hotel is 100% accurate. However, if you go down to that area at night, you are looking for that kind of activity. During the day, that area is actually quite normal.

I find no more or less begging than in your average large North American city. Perhaps less, as at most large intersections, there are people selling flowers, or newspapers, or trinkets. They don't just beg for money.

[kyleb]

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The CIA says the GDP per capita is 10k. Doesn't strike me as particularly poor by 3rd world standards. So what's it like?

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It's fine. Carl Hutton's article, while probably somewhat accurate, has a few BS things:

1) The "win switch" on RTG. That's [censored]. RTG doesn't have a doomswitch.
2) Costa Rica doesn't have any more panhandlers than a major metropolitan area in the United States.

I have been to CR, even in the exact same location as he (in fact, one mile from where he posted the address of the HQ of Cirrus). It's not nearly as bad as he says.

[LinusKS]

Kyleb,

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The "win switch" on RTG. That's [censored]. RTG doesn't have a doomswitch.

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How do you know?

[PollyEmory]

I doubt he overdid on their description of their shadyness anyway. I've played BetRoyal (yeah we all had to have one of those experiences to teach us to do our homework beforehand. Yet the website was so pretty and purple and how could you not trust purple? Anyway..) And it took two months to get the money back. And I think I'm one of the lucky ones too.

[Freudian]

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Was it proved that they deliberately rigged their software?

You know how well they took care of everyone in that situation, right?

They paid out all losses on doubles during the affected time period, plus 20% for inconvenience to all players affected.

They did this within 48 hours of finding out what had happened, and did it without any players having to contact them.

They should not have been rogued, and they were not.

Mistakes happen.

Freakin

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Mistakes like this happen due to a) incompetence or b) malice. Both reasons should make any rational player avoid EH and the Oddson software completely.

And they only fixed the problem and paid out money after it had been exposed on casinomeister and winneronline. You make it sound they did it out of the kindness of their heart. No, they did it because they were caught with their pants down.

[LinusKS]

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I doubt he overdid on their description of their shadyness anyway. I've played BetRoyal (yeah we all had to have one of those experiences to teach us to do our homework beforehand. Yet the website was so pretty and purple and how could you not trust purple? Anyway..) And it took two months to get the money back. And I think I'm one of the lucky ones too.

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I'm sure we've all had our experiences with slippery casinos. So far I've been pretty lucky. But I've had my first big (for me) win recently, so we'll see what happens with that.

[LinusKS]

Bryan's (CasinoMeister's) response, with permission:

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If this is a summary of the EH situation in a nutshell, well you're only offering half the shell. You didn't mention that EH admitted that their first statement was in error since they initially analyzed the wrong information. You ought to know know that using the term "fixed" software is a lot different than uploading the "wrong" codes. I'm really dismayed that you feel you need to bait a thread with comments that can poison objective thinking.

You also failed to mention that the EH thread was temporarily locked because members of this forum were not exercising restraint concerning this issue. You make it seem that this is a finished case, and that I'm trying to censor everyone. Thanks a whole hell of a lot.

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[BigF]

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But the point is, they screwed up and were highly incompetant. Anyone who has ever coded for a big company knows that you have proper test cycles, release procedures, etc.

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Let's get a little more technical here. Bugs like that should have been caught WITHOUT any human effort.

You know why? Because any legitimate business would have to implement this thing called unit testing. Programmers would have to write code that tests well-defined software behaviour. This doubling thingy is a perfect example. It's 1:1 not 1:2 so it's well-defined. Then every night, the system would automatically run the testing code. You get the picture.


Remember that famous "predictable RNG" bug years ago on Paradise poker (or was it Paradise?)? That kind of bugs are totally different from this kind in nature.

"People make mistakes." Very true, but not this kind of mistakes. Nice try though.