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Old 01-06-2007, 05:37 AM
gull gull is offline
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Default Re: Limping with Aces - Good examples?

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It depends who is seeing the flop with you. If you are in LP and those in the hand are

1) 'good' players, you can limp and try to outplay them on the flop

2) 'donks', you can jack it and try to get them to fold pf

3) combination, use #2

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If you're holding AA, you're ALWAYS raising for value.

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Yes, but I am saying you cans ometimes raise on the flop instead of preflop. Sometimes it's best not to telegraph you have a big pair if you can outplay good players postflop.

As I said, it depends on who you will see the flop with and how good of a player you are. If you raise preflop, you give away information. Some players will call just to try and bust your AA or KK. And you still don't know what they have...

And it's not like slowplaying big pp preflop will make you predictable, unless you are fortunate enough to get more than average number of them.

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I'm not saying limping with aces is bad. What I'm saying is that you never raise to "get donks to fold preflop."
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Old 01-06-2007, 05:56 AM
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Default Re: Limping with Aces - Good examples?

It may be worth pointing out that the relatively inexperienced (myself including) should refrain from slow-playing, generally. It is far more complex than it first appears. Beginners beware!
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Old 01-06-2007, 12:27 PM
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Default Re: Limping with Aces - Good examples?

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It may be worth pointing out that the relatively inexperienced (myself including) should refrain from slow-playing, generally. It is far more complex than it first appears. Beginners beware!

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I do suggest that if you're not confident with your post-flop play, then you shouldn't limp with aces anywhere near as often, if at all. I do agree that slowplaying is an overused technique.
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Old 01-06-2007, 01:52 PM
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Default Re: Limping with Aces - Good examples?

Its not something I would normally do but a situation occured in a MTT(which I ended up winning)last week.
The table was playing fairly tight with most EP raises resulting in folds all round but 1 player in late position had a habit of pushing if there was 2/3 limpers in the pot,I got AA UTG limped & he duly obliged & doubled me up.
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:09 AM
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I'm not saying limping with aces is bad. What I'm saying is that you never raise to "get donks to fold preflop."

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What? You want them to crack your AA with 93o and making two pair?
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Old 01-07-2007, 12:34 AM
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I'm not saying limping with aces is bad. What I'm saying is that you never raise to "get donks to fold preflop."

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What? You want them to crack your AA with 93o and making two pair?

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You want them to fold 93o [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img]
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Old 01-07-2007, 01:09 AM
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I want them to pay too much to try.

http://poker.wikia.com/wiki/Implied_odds
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Old 01-07-2007, 03:54 AM
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I'm not saying limping with aces is bad. What I'm saying is that you never raise to "get donks to fold preflop."

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What? You want them to crack your AA with 93o and making two pair?

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You're joking right?
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Old 01-07-2007, 10:42 AM
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Default Re: Limping with Aces - Good examples?

I will limp in early position if the table is aggressive and I can reraise preflop. If no one raises and there are 4+ players to the flop, I treat AA like a small pair.
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Old 01-07-2007, 01:00 PM
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IIf no one raises and there are 4+ players to the flop, I treat AA like a small pair.

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If 4 or more players see the flop you treat AA like a small pocket pair? This means that you only play it for set value? You just fold if you donīt hit a set when 4+ players see the flop?? Thatīs plain stupid!! Whtether you fold it or not depends on the texture of the flop, your AA are quite likely to be the best. Even against this number of players and imo it is a huge mistake to let that many players see the flop, pocket aces do not derive their value from flopping sets!!
Maybe you meant what you said in a different way because otherwise this is a big mistake!
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