Reviewing HHs after your matches

Indiana · #1 05-30-2007, 05:28 PM

So I was unable to sleep last night and stayed up through the night reviewing HHs from sessions where I thought I had run bad due to variance. After combing through like 100 matches I realized that I had in truth been spewing. This exercise was like a revelation to me. I hadn't spent a lot of time in my poker career doing this but wow, just wow it is really exhilirating to see how you play after a losing session. Its usually not just bad beats and stuff, but rather, your spewing and playing bad.

I'm curious, do the pros here spend a lot of time reviewing their own HHs after sessions? I cannot personally think of a better way to improve.

Indy

Indiana · #2 05-30-2007, 05:30 PM

by the way, i find that is important to create a file with all the hands that you don't understand what went wrong from all of your HHs. Naturally, posting whole HHS out here or whatever isnt productive, but putting together a file for your coach to review or to post is useful for me. Any other tips/tricks for self-review would be good to know.

citanul · #3 05-30-2007, 06:11 PM

indi,

some may disagree with this, but i think the lower on the learning curve you are relative to your opponents and whatnot, the greater the % of your total poker time should be spent studying. and yes, studying includes looking over your own hands.

once you're good, and have played a lot, and studied a lot, chances are that you know when you close your eyes at the end of the session (or earlier) when you [censored] up. most pros still go over hand histories, as far as i know, to see not only if they made any obvious mistakes, but if they can find spots where they missed anything not so huge.

i'm pretty sure that newt, for one, was a meticulous reviewer of his games, and continues to do so even now that i don't think he plays stts any more.

anyway, i could probably write a chapter of a book (lol) about reviewing your own play. but i have a final exam to tend to, so maybe later.

Indiana · #4 05-30-2007, 06:15 PM

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indi,

some may disagree with this, but i think the lower on the learning curve you are relative to your opponents and whatnot, the greater the % of your total poker time should be spent studying. and yes, studying includes looking over your own hands.

once you're good, and have played a lot, and studied a lot, chances are that you know when you close your eyes at the end of the session (or earlier) when you [censored] up. most pros still go over hand histories, as far as i know, to see not only if they made any obvious mistakes, but if they can find spots where they missed anything not so huge.

i'm pretty sure that newt, for one, was a meticulous reviewer of his games, and continues to do so even now that i don't think he plays stts any more.

anyway, i could probably write a chapter of a book (lol) about reviewing your own play. but i have a final exam to tend to, so maybe later.

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citanul,

i would love to hear more. i am old school and just read line by line and pay people to answer the questions that i dont understand and/or just ship them HHs and talk about them over the phone for pay. am i inefficient?

BradleyT · #5 05-30-2007, 07:22 PM

You should try SnGWiz. I never bothered with it until early this week when I found out it had a 30 day trial. Once you watch the demo video on the website to figure out the UI it's very fast to review an entire folder of tournies.

The Yugoslavian · #6 05-30-2007, 07:22 PM

cit,

Please write said chapter and forward to me for editing.

kthx

Yugoslav

PattdownManiac · #7 05-31-2007, 01:09 AM

I use popopop player after every session.

GeorgiaPoker · #8 05-30-2007, 06:09 PM

What do you use to review HH? I downloaded the trial of SNG Wizard and I am using that currently.

Indiana · #9 05-30-2007, 06:13 PM

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What do you use to review HH? I downloaded the trial of SNG Wizard and I am using that currently.

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i know this will sound horrible, but i read every line manually with no software....

Dr_Jeckyl_00 · #10 05-31-2007, 01:44 PM

I used to review my hands in notepad. It took forever.

As other's have mentioned, SNGW is a great tool for reviewing tourneys. Not only does it immediately identify where you pushed, or did not push correctly. You can quickly scan your stack size for every hand played and when you see a big change in the stack you can open the details to see the ICM piece, but even more you can open the notepad to review the hand transcript.

Since I don't make a ton of mistakes anymore [img]/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img] I can get through one HH in about 3-5 minutes. Last night I played about 15 games (4 tabling) from 8-11 and I reviewed all 15 from about 11-12.

I always try and review my games everyday either after a set, but usually after I am done playing. Doing this helps control tilt (when you shove correctly and lose) and it also quickly identifies and corrects leaks before they ruin you (mentally and financially).

Last night I received a lot of beats, but upon reviewing my games, I found that I had also tightened up when I should have been shoving some weaker hands. I also missed and made a few bad calls. I suspect this was due a little to tilting from losing so many hands I was ahead earlier in my session.

Hopefully I run goot tonight [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]