20/40 Settle a Debate

[pohuist]

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I vote call down as well. Your bet/call/raise line is super strong, and he still raised you.

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[BadBigBabar]

online if someone took ben's line against me i'd put him on an overpair, but i'm not sure how applicable this is live. any chance villain has aa or kk?

[Bicycles_Biatch]

I'm a flop monkey... I three bang right away... if he had A-10 ,99, jj, or something else he feels "beats AK"... there are a lot of turn cards that will slow him down or put him in check- call mode.

+ if you're pretty TAG, no WAY he gives you credit for a 6 here.

[JJH3984]

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online if someone took ben's line against me i'd put him on an overpair, but i'm not sure how applicable this is live. any chance villain has aa or kk?

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Yeah there is a chance. That's why I call down. You're in position and can make sure exactly two bets goes in from here so I don't really see the downside. Putting three more bets in after passive villian threebets is no good.

[sternroolz]

Call down. Theres more than enough posibility that he doesn't put you on a six and got spazzy with something else. Or that you will chop. Or that you hit your outs...blah blah blah.

[CardSharpCook]

I'm not 4betting the turn, if that's what you mean. I'll be having an internal debate as to whether or not to raise the river, but probably end up just calling. I certainly think I'm still ahead right now. I'm cautious about 4betting because he may have nothing at all, and then he may have me beat. I still expect to win this pot, but I don't think raising does anything good for me.

[swope]

i had a similar hand like this at a live 15/30 game at artichoke joes;

6s7s in early cutoff, raise against a bored table, call from SB.
flop is 662, no flush. i bet, SB calls.
turn is a Q. i bet, SB RR, i RR, SB calls.
river 4, i bet, SB calls, shows AQo.
i show, and he immediately starts muttering about me raising with trash etc etc.

the reason i mention this hand (yes i know its not exactly the same situation as yours), is that villain will overplay his top pair or try to get cute with Ax *often enough* to warrant a 4bet.

so i think if you bet/call a brick river, you will see an overpair often enough to justify the extra bets/risk.

[ProfessorBen]

swope: you have position screwed up.

Jeffage: I have you owned, but remember what I said.