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Old 06-20-2007, 02:28 PM
dlpnyc21 dlpnyc21 is offline
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Default i hate these types of spots...preflop checkup with QQ

This is the type of spot I've been finding myself in constantly in the 25/50 6max games. Lately, people have been just shoving pre instead of 4-betting or calling. I have no idea what types of hands they do it with, because I usually fold. Villian in this hand is MstAA mAArtini, a 25/19 solid player with a preflop aggression factor of 2.4.

Is this an easy fold, easy call? My hand sorta looks like a squeeze, but honestly, what can he be shoving with with two people left to act behind him?

Any help much appreciated...

dlpnyc21


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Stack sizes:
UTG: $11462
UTG+1: $8404
CO: $5344
Button: $15948
SB: $22019
Hero: $14026

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $175</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $975</font>, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises all-in $5344</font>, 2 folds, Hero???
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Old 06-20-2007, 02:34 PM
king_of_drafts king_of_drafts is offline
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Default Re: i hate these types of spots...preflop checkup with QQ

Is it weird that I would consider folding AK here but would snap call QQ? Mrmartini is probably never getting out of line with AQ here, but I think he always will do this with JJ and AK (as well as KK and AA obv) so I guess it's just a question for pokerstove?

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.366% 45.79% 01.58% 27440794 945878.00 { QdQs }
Hand 1: 52.634% 51.06% 01.58% 30598090 945878.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }

So you should call I think


EDIT: guess it makes sense that I sometimes might fold AK here

Hand 0: 39.785% 23.66% 16.13% 131241660 89482674.00 { AKo }
Hand 1: 60.215% 44.09% 16.13% 244579488 89482674.00 { JJ+, AKs, AKo }
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Old 06-20-2007, 02:37 PM
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Default Re: i hate these types of spots...preflop checkup with QQ

ez call, esp vs him and I would not describe him as a solid player
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Old 06-20-2007, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: i hate these types of spots...preflop checkup with QQ

easiest call ever?
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Old 06-20-2007, 02:41 PM
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Default Re: i hate these types of spots...preflop checkup with QQ

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easiest call ever?

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Old 06-20-2007, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: i hate these types of spots...preflop checkup with QQ

dlpnyc21,
this is a results-orientated post right? this is a very standard call and i'm sure you know that, i'm guessing he had AA/KK and that make you doubt yourself?
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Old 06-20-2007, 02:44 PM
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Default Re: i hate these types of spots...preflop checkup with QQ

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ez call, esp vs him and I would not describe him as a solid player

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ive seen this player do some REALLY stupid stuff. i instacall heree
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Old 06-20-2007, 02:46 PM
dlpnyc21 dlpnyc21 is offline
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Default Re: i hate these types of spots...preflop checkup with QQ

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ez call, esp vs him and I would not describe him as a solid player

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ive seen this player do some REALLY stupid stuff. i instacall heree

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ummm....there are two people left to act behind him? what am i missing here? are you guys randomly overbet 4-bet shoving with 2 ppl in the middle of a squeeze and one squeezer left to go?
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Old 06-20-2007, 02:48 PM
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Default Re: i hate these types of spots...preflop checkup with QQ

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ez call, esp vs him and I would not describe him as a solid player

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ive seen this player do some REALLY stupid stuff. i instacall heree

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ummm....there are two people left to act behind him? what am i missing here? are you guys randomly overbet 4-bet shoving with 2 ppl in the middle of a squeeze and one squeezer left to go?

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one hand i remember vs him.

he limps UTG. MP pots. CO calls. I repot KK from the SB. he COLDSHOVES 200BB effective with T9s. I tanked and called.
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Old 06-20-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: i hate these types of spots...preflop checkup with QQ

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ez call, esp vs him and I would not describe him as a solid player

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ive seen this player do some REALLY stupid stuff. i instacall heree

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uhh ya? who cares what the other two have, they just called preflop.

ummm....there are two people left to act behind him? what am i missing here? are you guys randomly overbet 4-bet shoving with 2 ppl in the middle of a squeeze and one squeezer left to go?

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