soap c/r

ship it pls · #1 11-12-2007, 09:59 AM

i was not trying to imply i liked the way i played this hand, but it was out of the ordinary and needed critique

i realize i am 50-50 w/ soaps range preflop, but wanted to make the hand play out easier post flop with him stuck in the middle

flop i agree that i should have called the 4 and raised the turn to get sb out of there more easily

turn i also agree was wrong, i thought i was ahead of more hands at the time, but aftermath i would not 'protect' my hand being that i am not winning in this spot

river i paid off ui after he 4-bet...

awful all the way around

hoppscot22 · #2 11-12-2007, 10:24 AM

and he had JJ?

ship it pls · #3 11-12-2007, 10:51 PM

QcTc... i wouldn't think JJ 4-bets there anyhow though, would you?

MitchL · #4 11-13-2007, 03:13 AM

What does everyone think of Soaps turn line?

Captain R · #5 11-13-2007, 03:23 AM

Looks pretty darn good to me. I don't like Soap's UTG raise, but the rest looks good. Once Shippy 5-bets the flop, I think he's betting the turn 100% of the time when it blanks off.

bakku · #6 11-13-2007, 03:27 AM

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you mean 4-betting the nuts 3 ways?

if you're talking about the inital c/r, i like it more than betting out. hands like AA/AK likely aren't raising but are betting when checked to. it's also your best chance of getting more than 3 bets in on the turn when you're up against KK/JJ

MitchL · #7 11-13-2007, 03:36 AM

Yeah, I suppose you are right we can only be sure that a raise would get in on the turn if he capped the flop.

CardSharpCook · #8 11-13-2007, 04:56 AM

How do you pay off when he 4bets? Fine, we know he has QT, so you peel the board pair, but call the river bet???

PokerBob · #9 11-13-2007, 05:55 AM

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it depends what SB did. if he folded the turn, then soap should call the turn raise and check/call a board pair and check/raise a brick.

EDIT: actually, I think that may be the line no matter what SB does, as hero clearly (a) has a set or (b) is drawing dead.

worm33 · #10 11-14-2007, 03:16 AM

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it depends what SB did. if he folded the turn, then soap should call the turn raise and check/call a board pair and check/raise a brick.

EDIT: actually, I think that may be the line no matter what SB does, as hero clearly (a) has a set or (b) is drawing dead.

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Bob this is bad. Like real bad.