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Old 11-19-2007, 03:08 PM
EroTheMad EroTheMad is offline
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Default 5$/90 Double Stack FTP, Too much overplay?

14th hand. Not much read on villain, but i had a note on him that he min-raised KQo rom MP2. Villain looks like classic donkie, when he raised 3.5bb i put him on a range of TT+/AJ+.
I had an aggro image, i won like half of the pots and table is weak generally. My first thought was keep the pot small with QQ because we were too deep. But i couldn't lay the hand down. (BTW i tried to bet 320, bet 230 by mistake. Too much bad beat affects my fingers moves i think)

Full Tilt (8 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

(Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)


MP2: (3,015)
CO: (5,380)
Button: 3,020)
Hero: (4,595)
BB: (2,925)
UTG: (2,810)
UTG+1: (2,550)
Villain: (2,705)


Preflop: Hero is SB with , . Hero posts a blind of 20.
2 folds, MP1 raises t140,3 folds, Hero (poster) calls, BB calls.

Flop: , , (3 players)(pot t420)
Hero bets t230, BB folds, MP1 raises t1,110 , Hero calls.

Turn: (2 players)(pot t2640)
Hero checks, MP1 bets t1455 (All-In), Hero calls.

River: (2 players, 1 all-in) pot(t5400)

Final Pot:
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:11 PM
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Default Re: 5$/90 Double Stack FTP, Too much overplay?

Im shoving this on the flop
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:16 PM
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Default Re: 5$/90 Double Stack FTP, Too much overplay?

Yeah i tried to bet 320 but bet 230 by mistake, my instincts told me that he had AA,KK on flop raise. But i didn't try to be a ultra-super pro on 5$ by laying down QQ.
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:24 PM
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Default Re: 5$/90 Double Stack FTP, Too much overplay?

I think as played and with your read I would definitely fold the turn.
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: 5$/90 Double Stack FTP, Too much overplay?

folding the turn after calling the flop is horrid.
im shoving over a lot of the time on that flop.

also i would reraise this pre BECAUSE of the fact that you are deep. that's not a reason to keep the pot small with a hand like QQ.
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: 5$/90 Double Stack FTP, Too much overplay?

should have reraiased on flop
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Old 11-19-2007, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: 5$/90 Double Stack FTP, Too much overplay?

I think there's no difference on going all-in or calling all-in here. He's committed and it'd be impossible for him to lay his "KK" down on this board. with his raise the real question was am i going to showdown with this hand or not? There's no FE here. I remember a lot of hands like this on this board and the things i learned told me to go to showdown. My instincts told me other choice. As i told, my bet was value bet so i didn't fold here. I don't believe "information betting" but this hand brought another thing to my mind about all of my game and showed me one of my weak points.

The real thing i wonder is if re-raise pre-flop or 3bet on flop is more +EV in this situations.
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