200: JJ OOP in Blind War

QTip · #1 08-20-2007, 04:03 PM

Hate these hands and trying to find some clarity here:

Villain is 31/5/2.5 and is pretty active in the game.

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saw flop|saw showdown

MP1 ($330.75)
MP2 ($245.25)
MP3 ($200)
CO ($257)
Button ($433)
Hero ($171.25)
BB ($218.45)
UTG ($204.55)
UTG+1 ($200)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
6 folds, Hero raises to $7, BB calls $4.

Flop: ($13) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero bets $8, BB raises to $16

What's the plan here?

QTip · #2 08-20-2007, 04:38 PM

btw, in this hand MP3 folded out, and it folded to me...took that action off on accident.

Mike Kelley · #3 08-20-2007, 04:43 PM

Call
C/C
if he checks turn value bet river.

FrogMouth · #4 08-20-2007, 04:57 PM

MP3 folded on the folp right?

PFR is too weak, OOP with a limper I make it at least $10. On the flop how much is in the pot? $21? Your bet is far too weak. I'm sure you're ahead, that min raise doesn't scare me.

As played re-pop to $65ish as you don't want to see anymore cards. Probally fold to a push, and hate it.

Octopus · #5 08-20-2007, 04:58 PM

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Call
C/C
if he checks turn value bet river.

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Does it matter to you if his turn bet is 1/2 pot sized or pot sized?
Are you calling again on the river (if he bets the turn)?
Are you willing to get all-in calling along with this hand?

Octopus · #6 08-20-2007, 05:06 PM

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MP3 folded on the folp right?

PFR is too weak, OOP with a limper I make it at least $10. On the flop how much is in the pot? $21? Your bet is far too weak. I'm sure you're ahead, that min raise doesn't scare me.

As played re-pop to $65ish as you don't want to see anymore cards. Probally fold to a push, and hate it.

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The numbers in the post are not really consistent, but I think MP3 was not involved in the hand at all. If so, his bet sizes are not outrageous.

What is your plan if he calls your reraise? (OOP sucks.)

QTip · #7 08-20-2007, 05:08 PM

gee wiz...I'm not sure what went down with this HH.

This folded around to me in the sb...mp3 was not invovled.

QTip · #8 08-20-2007, 05:10 PM

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MP3 folded on the folp right?

PFR is too weak, OOP with a limper I make it at least $10. On the flop how much is in the pot? $21? Your bet is far too weak. I'm sure you're ahead, that min raise doesn't scare me.

As played re-pop to $65ish as you don't want to see anymore cards. Probally fold to a push, and hate it.

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FM:

I'm sorry about that. This folded to me in the sb. The pot on the flop was $12.

I'm really starting to hate mid pps in these spots PF. It seems like they just drip with RIO.

FrogMouth · #9 08-20-2007, 05:16 PM

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MP3 folded on the folp right?

PFR is too weak, OOP with a limper I make it at least $10. On the flop how much is in the pot? $21? Your bet is far too weak. I'm sure you're ahead, that min raise doesn't scare me.

As played re-pop to $65ish as you don't want to see anymore cards. Probally fold to a push, and hate it.

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The numbers in the post are not really consistent, but I think MP3 was not involved in the hand at all. If so, his bet sizes are not outrageous.

What is your plan if he calls your reraise? (OOP sucks.)

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I still make it $10 PF. Actually I hate my line and probbly would rather call down. Reraising the flop does nothing good and I'm sure your ahead.

QTip · #10 08-20-2007, 05:27 PM

Well...here's how it went down. Thing was tho, after his flop raise, I just sat there in a cloud of uncertainty, so the rest of the hand was meaningless to me since I had no plan.

The pot was $44 after I called his flop raise.

Turn: 2c

I check and call a $24 bet.

Pot is $92

River is a 9d

and I check and call a $60 bet.