Best place to play live PLO

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plo breaks the noobs too quickly to really stay running sadly.

[grizy]

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My feeling at this point- is that omaha is a specialized game for action junkies and 'serious' players who like a change of pace from hold em. You need a solid base of regulars to ensure the game is continuous and doesn't break up.


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I think you need to walk into the bigger casinos and when there are 5 tables of 1/2 NL, there needs to be at least 1 table of 1/2 PLO during peak hours. Any time I go to a casino (unfortunately very infrequently these days), I ask if they'll put up a 1/2 PLO game on the board.

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I know for a fact east coast (AC) poker rooms by and large don't even want to hear about a 1/2 PLO game.

[betgo]

PLO doesn't seem to be played as much in AC and LV than the midwest and south.

If you want a low stakes PLO game, then play online or go to Britain or Ireland.

It may be partly that the casinos don't want casual players to bust out real quickly, but it is also that there are not that many casual players interested in PLO.

At the PCA tournament in the Bahamas, they had a couple of tables of 5/10 PLO, and the games were very loose and soft. If you can beat any reasonable level online, the games at that level in major tournaments should not be difficult. I assume the 5/10/25 games are somewhat tougher.

[Troll_Inc]

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plo breaks the noobs too quickly to really stay running sadly.

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I don't disagree, but I think it is still possible. I remember around 2003-4, at a place like the Taj, there'd be 3-4 tables of 2/4 LHE and then some 3/6 and 4/8. There might be 1 mabye 2 of the 1/2 NLHE tables. And in theory you can go broke much faster at NLHE than LHE.

I don't play in casinos as much, but my impression is that the 1/2 NLHE might be just as popular as 2/4 and 3/6 LHE? It's not inconceivable another game could supplant NLHE "the main game". Can we think of the most likely game to replace it?

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This won't happen until PLO tournaments are broadcasted on ESPN, at least not for a long time. Too bad though.

[davebreal]

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I don't play in casinos as much, but my impression is that the 1/2 NLHE might be just as popular as 2/4 and 3/6 LHE?

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NLHE is much more popular in Atlantic City than LHE. It's not even close. Table-wise there is generally greater than a 5:1 ratio in favor of NLHE.

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I don't play in casinos as much, but my impression is that the 1/2 NLHE might be just as popular as 2/4 and 3/6 LHE?

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NLHE is much more popular in Atlantic City than LHE. It's not even close. Table-wise there is generally greater than a 5:1 ratio in favor of NLHE.

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3 years ago, there was practically no NLHE and limit stud was about equal to limit holdem in AC.

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This won't happen until PLO tournaments are broadcasted on ESPN, at least not for a long time. Too bad though.

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Part of it is TV, but also NL/PL games are more exciting and fun and more strategically interesting. Once people see NLHE on TV, they realize that it is more enjoyable to play than limit poker.

Part of the reason that there were not more small NL games in the US a few years ago was that cardrooms didn't want to bust out fish quickly, rather than have them keep coming back, paying rake, and helping to bring in other customers. Also, you don't want to deal with angry players.

With NL/PL, you have to know a little bit what you are doing or your money is gone like that. With 2/4 limit holdem or 1-3 limit stud, you can have a whole table of fish who can enjoy playing and gradually losing a little.

The other problem with PLO is that it is a fairly complicated game. The average total donk isn't going to be able to even figure out what his hand is.

If PLO catches on a little more in the US, I am sure there will be 2/5 or whatever games spread regularly.

I think they do play 1/2 PLO in pounds or euros in Britain and Ireland. In continental Europe, there are not a lot of low stakes games in cardrooms, so I don't know if they have low stakes PLO. I think the game in Amsterdam is about the equivalent of $5/$10 PLO.

[HarmonicaMan]

Are they still playing things like courcheval, or whatever the 5-card game is?
What exactly are they playing away from holdem these days?

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just go during a big tourney, any of the EPTs should have good cash games (maybe not Deauville, though I think that is off the list this year). If you don't go for a festival you will get a game in Dublin, London, France, probably Amsterdam and probably others, but the action isn't guaranteed to be good.

Probably the same if you go to something like a WPT event in the States, though I don't know from experience.

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Which is better for regular PLO games (like if I wanted to stay for a month or more and play as much as possible), London or Dublin? And if I wanted to travel to europe for just a few days of the best possible action at the 5-10 euro level (deep stacks) this summer, when and where would it be?