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Old 10-23-2007, 05:46 AM
coberst coberst is offline
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Professionalism RIP

Where have all the professionals gone, gone to self-interest every one. This is of course an exaggeration. Not every single professional has sold out.

Allen Greenspan has just written a book admitting his sell-out. Colin Powell sold his soul when he went before the UN. We see Doctors selling out there professionalism for business interests. CEO’s sell out their responsibility by taking the money and run. Economists are driven by ideology rather than professionalism. University professors sell out for grant money.

I think that we are witnessing the death of professionalism. Perhaps I am naïve to think that professionals were ever professional.

Wiki tells me that the classical meaning of professional was limited to Divinity, Medicine, and Law. Since classical times many other occupations than these three have come to be recognized within society as professional.

Arnold Toynbee wrote a “Study of History’, which “is the longest written work ever composed in the English language…In it he traces the birth, growth and decay of some 21 to 23 major civilizations in the world.”

“He argues that for civilizations to be born, the challenge must be a golden mean; that excessive challenge will crush the civilization, and too little challenge will cause it to stagnate. He argues that growth is driven by "Creative Minorities," who lead the uncreative masses by example (called "mimesis").”

“He argues that the breakdown of civilizations is not caused by loss of control over the environment, over the human environment, or attacks from outside, but from the deterioration of the "Creative Minority" (who leads the uncreative majority by example) into a "Dominant Minority" (who forces the majority to obey without meriting obedience). He argues that creative minorities deteriorate due to a worship of their "former self," by which they become prideful, and fail to adequately address the next challenge they face. He argues that a civilization has broken down is when it forms a "Universal State," which stifles political creativity.”

He argues that as civilizations decay, they form an Internal Proletariat and an External Proletariat. The Internal proletariat is held in subjugation by the dominant minority inside the civilization, and grows bitter; the external proletariat exists outside the civilization in poverty and chaos, and grows envious. He argues that as civilizations decay, there is a schism in the body social, whereby abandon and self-control replace creativity, and truancy and martyrdom replace discipleship by the creative minority.

In “Understanding Media” McLuhan notes Toynbee’s “explanation of how the lame and the crippled respond to their handicaps in a society of active warriors. They become specialists like Vulcan, the smith and armorer. And how do whole communities act when conquered and enslaved? The same strategy serves them as it does the lame individual in a society of warriors. They specialize and become indispensable to their masters. It is probably the long human history of enslavement, and the collapse into specialism as a counter-irritant, that have put the stigma of servitude and pusillanimity on the figure of the specialist, even in modern times. The capitulation of Western man to his technology, with its crescendo of specialized demands has always appeared to many observers of our world as a kind of enslavement.”

I argue that the ‘Creative Minority’, the lost professionals, consists of the university professors and the techno-graduates of our universities who have become specialists for Corporate America. These intellectuals have become ‘hired guns’ for Corporate America. What do you think?

These quotations regarding “The Study of History” are from:
http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/enc...of_history.htm
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Old 10-23-2007, 06:00 AM
Jamougha Jamougha is offline
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Narrative fallacy.

Colin Powell sold out long ago.
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:09 AM
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Narrative fallacy.

Colin Powell sold out long ago.

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I assume that you refer to Powell joining the Bush team. Is this correct? If so what about the argument that "I join the enemy to try to curtail excess"? Only after the fact can we recognize the sell out at the begining, or we can say nice try but you failed.
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Old 10-23-2007, 08:22 AM
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Narrative fallacy.

Colin Powell sold out long ago.

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I assume that you refer to Powell joining the Bush team. Is this correct? If so what about the argument that "I join the enemy to try to curtail excess"? Only after the fact can we recognize the sell out at the begining, or we can say nice try but you failed.

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No, I'm talking about his whitewash of My Lai.
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Old 10-23-2007, 09:52 AM
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Narrative fallacy.

Colin Powell sold out long ago.

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I assume that you refer to Powell joining the Bush team. Is this correct? If so what about the argument that "I join the enemy to try to curtail excess"? Only after the fact can we recognize the sell out at the begining, or we can say nice try but you failed.

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No, I'm talking about his whitewash of My Lai.

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Very pointed, I agree with you.

The other issue is that professionalism is usually defined by those who profess it! LOL

Let the cops investigate the cops, the lawyer society investigate the lawyers, the medical society investigate the medics, etc... etc... LOL.

What next: engineers investigating engineers malpractices! [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 10-24-2007, 01:07 AM
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Narrative fallacy.

Colin Powell sold out long ago.

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I assume that you refer to Powell joining the Bush team. Is this correct? If so what about the argument that "I join the enemy to try to curtail excess"?

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I've heard that argument for McNamara. But you just ask yourself, where are the examples of that succeeding?
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