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Old 09-23-2007, 11:15 PM
Pegasus Pegasus is offline
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Default Re: 87s turn a combo

orange,

i think it's a clear call. you're getting great odds (both pot and implied) to draw your hand...not sure i'd want to fold him out here as stacks are pretty deep and your hand is well diguised so you stand to win a bigger pot if you make your hand. If you miss on the river you save yourself a few bucks (over shoving and losing).
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: 87s turn a combo

if this guy can read hands, i think its worth calling here and bluffing a few select rivers.
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: 87s turn a combo

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you guys really think he crs w. QJ on the flop? or TP?

not sure if he does this given stacks

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A decent part of his range is QT. I think calling isn't best here as we miss often on the river.
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:21 PM
Nielsio Nielsio is offline
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Default Re: 87s turn a combo

With these stacks I just don't see him having a set here (because of his girly bets).

And even if he has bottom set, do you think he's going to push the turn if you raise? He might call sometimes as well.

And most other hands have a really tough time calling a turn-raise and the flop c/r.
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:23 PM
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Default Re: 87s turn a combo

I don't really like flop.
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:26 PM
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I don't really like flop.

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shh i have fps, we have alot to play with, he's FOS!!!!
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:30 PM
Fonkey123 Fonkey123 is offline
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What hands would he assume you 3bet on flop?
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:31 PM
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orange i think not 3betting this flop with your monsters and occasionally QTish hands is a leak in these games
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:33 PM
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Default Re: 87s turn a combo

i raise this [censored] to like $110 or some [censored], he aint callin w/ his weak ass QT, the only hand i seees him calling wid is the king-jackl + like the K-whatever combo. most likely he has spome crap like "air" here (givens thats weaks ass's turn like nearly min-raise, wtf? actually i raise herre 100% the time), raise is def on the cards, i like.

eidt: despite what ever, i think raising turn is the nut line!


2ndedit: i agrees w/ teh orange's, we have what is knowns as fe, raise turn, this is a good spot for FPS, villains is def FOS(given the small turns raise)
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Old 09-23-2007, 11:35 PM
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i call given his bet size
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