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Old 09-23-2007, 03:10 PM
ClubChamp04 ClubChamp04 is offline
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Default Re: Why would online poker sites not rig their games?

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There is no way to rig a poker site and not get caught. Anyone with a first year stats course can look at hand histories and tell you if something is abnormal.

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It would be very easy to rig a poker site with close to zero risk if you have any brains at all.

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Further it is simply not worth it to a large site to be rigged. Just take the time to do the math on how much rake income they take in yearly. Now consider if it is rational to risk that for the slightly additional income of rigging the site.

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The "slighty" additional income from a random day could put someones daughter through college.

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Third why is it that only losing players complain that the site is rigged?

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I am a winner online and I don't know if online poker is rigged or not. The point is that no one knows what's happening behind the scenes but the motive is certainly there.
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:12 PM
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He is a winner online or a winner on Stars?

Bad players who can adapt to different styles of play on different sites rather then accept their flaw will prefer to blame an outside force for their lack of ability.

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How simple are you? He is the #1 ranked tourament player on the net.
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:20 PM
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Default Re: Why would online poker sites not rig their games?

lol. i assume you are kidding?

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How simple are you? He is the #1 ranked tourament player on pocketfives.com

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being the best tournament player on pocketfives.com is like claiming to be the tallest midget in the circus.
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: Why would online poker sites not rig their games?

Why would Amazon not take my CC number that I gave them and run around making a zillion purchases on it?

Why would my local casino not rig their blackjack game again me so that I lose my money faster? Don't give me that garbage that they are already beating me for a decent rate anyway. Obviously they can get my money faster with just a couple slight-of-hand tricks and the chances of them getting caught are incredibly minimal and besides, lots of big corporations who broke laws to make more money were happy to take similar risks.

Why would I not rig my home-poker game to make more money? T


At some point you just have to go on some amount of trust here. If they were rigged it seems extremely likely that it would be able to be detected and it would not lead to significantly more profits to justify the risk. They just wouldn't make that much more over running a fair game imo. Maybe they could set it up to make a little bit more. But not much. They already do well on the rake...and the nature of the game itself leads to the fish winning often enough to stay in the game okay.
People who think that even tournaments are rigged to supposedly redistribute the money back to the fish are just bad at poker. This seems to include a lot of people who like to boldly claim that they have played the game for a really long time and that somehow supposedly makes them an expert.

In the same way that the blackjack dealer who has been doing this for 25 yrs supposedly has seen enough hands and has enough experience to warrant telling me that taking insurance when you have a 20 is almost always a good idea because it's insuring a better hand.

In short, a lot of people are stupid. It's frustrating...but thankfully in the world of poker it's also profitable.
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Old 09-23-2007, 03:32 PM
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Default Re: Why would online poker sites not rig their games?

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There is no way to rig a poker site and not get caught. Anyone with a first year stats course can look at hand histories and tell you if something is abnormal.

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It would be very easy to rig a poker site with close to zero risk if you have any brains at all.

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Really? How do you stop the programmers from spilling the beans if they get laid off, find a better job elsewhere, have a fight with management and want to get revenge, want to make some money selling a juicy story to the press, or a million other reasons? The fact that not a single credible person has come forward saying "I used to program for Party, here's how we rigged action flops" (with evidence) is incredibly strong evidence that the sites are not rigged.
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Old 09-23-2007, 04:01 PM
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Default Re: Why would online poker sites not rig their games?

It would be very easy for WalMart to tack on 5 extra cents in taxes that they would just keep for themselves and I would never notice.
Think of all those customers!!!
Think of all the nickels!!!! It's a ton of profit.

So what if some customer occasionally detects it. Just apologize for the glitch and give him his $0.05 back.
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Old 09-23-2007, 04:07 PM
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lol. i assume you are kidding?

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Not really [img]/images/graemlins/smirk.gif[/img] He was questioning Lilholdem's ability to adapt to players on different sites. OBVIOUSLY, LH isn't necessarily #1, but I think we can all agree that he is a very skilled mtt player and this guy questioning his abilty to adapt is absurd.
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Old 09-23-2007, 04:24 PM
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Default Re: Why would online poker sites not rig their games?

Actually anyone who thinks a site can rig poker without it being obvious to anyone with access to a large number of hand histories and basic understanding of stats is a lost cause.
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:44 PM
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people here will bash you all over the place.

they are just ignorent people who dont understand the basics of computer security.

again - it is possible to rigg a pokersite. you will have no knowladge/proof of this being done. ( NEVER !).

you may or maynot trust sites, do what you wish , if you lose stop playing !

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If you accuse other people of being ignorant, at least have the courtesy to use "big people" english. I suppose grammar is rigged too.

Online poker sites' integrity is just as important as their games and software. With a startup site you're taking some (minimal) chances, but if a major site like Stars or FTP were found to be cheating their players they would lose a lot of those players.
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Old 09-23-2007, 06:48 PM
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Default Re: Why would online poker sites not rig their games?

Other then they themselves being losing players what evidence does the conspiracy theory group offer for their rigged theory?
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