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Old 03-06-2007, 05:33 PM
Bukem_ Bukem_ is offline
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Default I was going to instacall a flop push.

Haven't seen villain before but he was 23/21 in 75 hands.

He instacalled my flop 3 bet.

I considered shoving turn for value but thought it was more likely I'm getting trapped than getting value so decided to just try to check it down.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $4 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($817.70)
CO ($904.50)
Button ($263.90)
SB ($400)
BB ($362)
UTG ($413.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls $10.

Flop: ($30) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $23</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises to $68</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $164</font>, BB calls $96.

Turn: ($358) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: ($358) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets $184 (All-In)</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $542
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:34 PM
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Default Re: I was going to instacall a flop push.

flop 3-bet is ugly
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: I was going to instacall a flop push.

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flop 3-bet is ugly

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I used to never 3 bet with an overpair on dry flops but people play back at me and then call down so light that I've started adding a lot more legit hands to bluffy lines.
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: I was going to instacall a flop push.

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flop 3-bet is ugly

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combined with river fold even uglier. I call flop raise and take it from there.
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:38 PM
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Default Re: I was going to instacall a flop push.

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combined with river fold even uglier.

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Even getting sick odds, what worse hand can he be betting?
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: I was going to instacall a flop push.

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combined with river fold even uglier.

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Even getting sick odds, what worse hand can he be betting?

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river fold is fine
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Old 03-06-2007, 05:39 PM
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Default Re: I was going to instacall a flop push.

People think 99 is good here. He could have a missed draw, which as stupid as it sounds, they still bluff with even understacked.
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Old 03-06-2007, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: I was going to instacall a flop push.

this is kinda butchered on every street. well, i guess the turn is ok. and preflop.
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Old 03-06-2007, 06:25 PM
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Default Re: I was going to instacall a flop push.

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this is kinda butchered on every street. well, i guess the turn is ok. and preflop.

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Is flop really that bad given thinking I outlined above?

Can I really expect him to bluff this river, wouldn't it be better to shove turn if I'm going to put more money in pot?
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Old 03-06-2007, 06:29 PM
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Default Re: I was going to instacall a flop push.

why not just shove if you're going to 3-bet the flop?
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