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Old 11-24-2006, 07:57 PM
Bukem_ Bukem_ is offline
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Default One last spew.

Sort of combo value shove vs draw, try to fold out weak made hands. Villain is 28/14. Def check raises flop far more often than would seem reasonable. Loves to check raise turn all in on a draw.

Plan was to shove over his turn bet on most cards.

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Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $14</font>, 3 folds, BB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($30, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $23</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to $75</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($180, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets $125</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in $400</font>
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Old 11-24-2006, 07:59 PM
jfish jfish is offline
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Default Re: One last spew.

well if youre going to call flop you might as well.
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Old 11-24-2006, 08:03 PM
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Default Re: One last spew.

this is fine given read.
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Old 11-24-2006, 08:21 PM
jrbick jrbick is offline
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Default Re: One last spew.

yes if you're calling flop, turn is basically a must. I don't know his stack size so I won't say that I have a feeling he isn't going to let go of much at all when he plays this way. I dunno though. A player like this is tough to guage w/ re: to FE; but you're play is strong and exactly what he'd probably expect you to do w/ QQ+ here at the very least.


fwiw I'd rather just dump the flop. he's going to hand you his stack at some point.
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Old 11-24-2006, 08:38 PM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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Default Re: One last spew.

a-ok given your description. main thing being is would he play KQ this way and would he stack off with onepair.
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Old 11-25-2006, 12:15 AM
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Default Re: One last spew.

After calling flop you obviously have to and given read I don't mind it too much. He has you covered, right? Cause stacks kinda need to be at least that deep IMO.
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Old 11-25-2006, 12:30 AM
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Default Re: One last spew.

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Sort of combo value shove

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rofl you are delusional. Just admit to yourself that you went all-in on a bluff and you will be able to analyze your play/results much more accurately.
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Old 11-25-2006, 12:50 AM
Bukem_ Bukem_ is offline
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Default Re: One last spew.

Its obviously much more on the bluff side.

You think he never shows up with a draw though?

Plus I'm occasionally bluffing with best hand.
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Old 11-25-2006, 04:01 AM
FireStorm FireStorm is offline
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Default Re: One last spew.

You're occasionally bluffing with the best hand, but how often does villian fold a big Queen here? What if he has QdXd? I guess you need to do this once you call the flop, but as stated above, you can simply fold on the flop and find a better opportunity to get it all in against this guy.
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Old 11-25-2006, 04:03 AM
EgoSlasher EgoSlasher is offline
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Default Re: One last spew.

I would much rather 3bet the flop than take this line.
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