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Old 09-15-2007, 12:38 PM
schwza schwza is offline
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Default Re: 3bet flop shove 200BB deep HU

maybe JJ+ and K-high flush draws?

i don't mean i'd fold TT though, b/c i would just call flop with it.
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: 3bet flop shove 200BB deep HU

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I was asking because you said I call with ANY hand I raise with. Making it seem like you would only raise with real hands.

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Yeah sry, I expressed myself bad.
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: 3bet flop shove 200BB deep HU

expressedly myself *POORLY*
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:40 PM
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Default Re: 3bet flop shove 200BB deep HU

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maybe JJ+ and K-high flush draws?

i don't mean i'd fold TT though, b/c i would just call flop with it.

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Yea, my feeling was the break-even point was somewhere in the JJ/TT area from OP description.
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:42 PM
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Default Re: 3bet flop shove 200BB deep HU

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expressedly myself *POORLY*

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Yeah sorry, I expressedly (wtf?) myself poorly. Not everyone has english as first language, you know...
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Old 09-15-2007, 12:50 PM
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Default Re: 3bet flop shove 200BB deep HU

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expressedly myself *POORLY*

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Yeah sorry, I expressedly (wtf?) myself poorly. Not everyone has english as first language, you know...

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Just tell him to go [censored] himself... In your native language of course.
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Old 09-15-2007, 01:08 PM
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Default Re: 3bet flop shove 200BB deep HU

If I was SB I'd call this shove with any 3 obv, A2ss, 56ss, or QQ+. Lemme guess, he called it with like 77 or 88 and you had a big draw and you blanked? lol
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Old 09-15-2007, 01:54 PM
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Default Re: 3bet flop shove 200BB deep HU

I won this hand, but villain said he had QQ while he was thinking after I shoved and then he mucked. At the time I thought it was pretty bad to raise w/QQ than fold and this thread confirmed that. I also don't think he has to felt QQ 200BB deep but I would think if you raise this flop it's to enduce a shove from an aggro player.

When he tanked and raised I didn't think he was nearly this strong (thought a bluff or maybe 55-99), so I decided I was shoving my entire range.

What do you guys think of my play as a bluff?
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Old 09-15-2007, 02:01 PM
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Default Re: 3bet flop shove 200BB deep HU

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I won this hand, but villain said he had QQ while he was thinking after I shoved and then he mucked. At the time I thought it was pretty bad to raise w/QQ than fold and this thread confirmed that. I also don't think he has to felt QQ 200BB deep but I would think if you raise this flop it's to enduce a shove from an aggro player.

When he tanked and raised I didn't think he was nearly this strong (thought a bluff or maybe 55-99), so I decided I was shoving my entire range.

What do you guys think of my play as a bluff?

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Wow, only once in a while...
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Old 09-15-2007, 02:05 PM
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What do you guys think of my play as a bluff?


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Quite awfull. He should not raise/fold any real hands imo, so you're basically counting on him bluffing here a ton and given your description of villain and the flow of the game that's not very likely.
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