How deep do I need to be able to bluff here?

[Bukem_]

Villain is active tag/lag type. He has me beat, but I know his hand isn't that strong.

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Full Tilt NL Hold'em Ring - 2/4 Blinds (3 handed)

Starting Stacks
Seat 1: Button (Hero)
Seat 6: Big blind

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
Hero raises ($14), sb (folds), Big blind calls ($10)

Flop: ($30) J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Big blind checks, Hero bets ($22), sits (down), Big blind calls ($22), adds ($160)

Turn: ($74) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Big blind bets ($50), Hero raises ($162), Big blind calls ($112)

River: ($398) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Big blind bets ($170), Hero needs to push how much more?

[Gravy]

If you're really this sure of your read, $650.

[luckychewy]

i would fold the riv, i would also sometimes just call the turn.

[Bukem_]

I usually just call turn, trying something differnt. Was planning on probably checking down on most rivers if called, but his river bet felt like he was setting his price and didnt' want to put more money in.

I don't see how he can have ace high flush or stronger with this line, and if I push all he really beats is a bluff.

[luckychewy]

this guy is not gonna fold a flush, he also prob never has a bigger jack. also, what are stacks?

[Bukem_]

eff stacks 700ish.

[luckychewy]

yea, def fold dude.

[wpr101]

Just curious what your read is based off of? It might give us some more insight as to why a bluff would work here.

[CarmeloAnthony]

against a floater i like to sometimes just call the turn and probably fold riv