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Old 08-03-2007, 02:58 PM
mason55 mason55 is offline
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Default 100nl - retardo hand with 2 overs + fd

MP is loose and aggro and bad, not reads on anyone else.


Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $118.15
BB: $101.85
Hero (UTG): $117.00
MP: $172.00
CO: $127.30
BTN: $100.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $4.00</font>, MP calls $4.00, 2 folds, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3.00

Flop: ($16) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 (4 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">BB bets $8.00</font>, Hero calls $8.00, <font color="red">MP raises to $35.00</font>, 2 folds

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Old 08-03-2007, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: 100nl - retardo hand with 2 overs + fd

Based on your read of MP I'd shove.
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:34 PM
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Default Re: 100nl - retardo hand with 2 overs + fd

Close one. It doesn't seem like we got any FE with a push. But surely he could do this with a lower fd or a hand like T8 based on your read. I say push it for a flip against his range, it sucks to fold.
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: 100nl - retardo hand with 2 overs + fd

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Based on your read of MP I'd shove.

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Still think its close though.
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: 100nl - retardo hand with 2 overs + fd

Shove. You've got plenty of equity and overlay even if he NEVER folds.
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: 100nl - retardo hand with 2 overs + fd

I push here.
I also raise when BB bets into me.
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Old 08-03-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: 100nl - retardo hand with 2 overs + fd

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I push here.
I also raise when BB bets into me.

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I prefer to float BB's lead, not just with draws but a lot of hands. If you get overcalls here that's fine. I'd raise here with a lot of made hands and with some air.

I'd rather raise with AK than with a good draw (on this 3-way flop) if I was going to bluff raise, because I don't really want to get 3-bet by the BB on this flop with this hand (your equity isn't hot at ALL then).

Once I play with BB longer, and if I know he leads weak, then I raise a lot more hands.
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Old 08-03-2007, 04:08 PM
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Default Re: 100nl - retardo hand with 2 overs + fd

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I push here.
I also raise when BB bets into me.

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I prefer to float BB's lead, not just with draws but a lot of hands. If you get overcalls here that's fine. I'd raise here with a lot of made hands and with some air.

I'd rather raise with AK than with a good draw (on this 3-way flop) if I was going to bluff raise, because I don't really want to get 3-bet by the BB on this flop with this hand (your equity isn't hot at ALL then).

Once I play with BB longer, and if I know he leads weak, then I raise a lot more hands.

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good points. I assume donk leads are weak as a default and if the guy bet/3bets I make a note.
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Old 08-03-2007, 04:12 PM
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Default Re: 100nl - retardo hand with 2 overs + fd

good so far..now i fold. sure you could have his worse draw dominated but you have literally 0 fold equity after you just called BB's lead.
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Old 08-03-2007, 04:45 PM
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Default Re: 100nl - retardo hand with 2 overs + fd

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I push here.
I also raise when BB bets into me.

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I prefer to float BB's lead, not just with draws but a lot of hands. If you get overcalls here that's fine. I'd raise here with a lot of made hands and with some air.

I'd rather raise with AK than with a good draw (on this 3-way flop) if I was going to bluff raise, because I don't really want to get 3-bet by the BB on this flop with this hand (your equity isn't hot at ALL then).


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This is exactly what went through my mind when I flat called, esp the last part.
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