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Old 08-17-2007, 08:14 PM
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Default 10/20 live, mid set facing river raise from super tight nit

i frequent the 10/20 (sometimes 10/25) donkfest at fallsview casino whenever i'm not too lazy to make the drive out from toronto. recently, this hand went down against a regular whose a super tight nit whose almost totally incapable of making moves and a big time fish. the only time i've ever seen nitty villain come close to a bluff was when he flopped a royal draw and pushed to a re-raise. effective stacks are 4.5k... villain raises UTG to $100, massive fish calls in MP, i'm in the BB with 88... i call. flop comes Q 8 2... two hearts. i check, villain bets out $300, donk checks his hole cards, and calls, i call with the intention of smashing a non heart turn... turn is a 2...i check, villain checks, donk checks. river is a is a 4 of hearts. i bet out $800... villain raises to $2800... fish cake calls... i sit there and think wtf, confused as hell. thoughts please.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:44 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 live, mid set facing river raise from super tight nit

So only 1200 left behind? Just push.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 live, mid set facing river raise from super tight nit

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So only 1200 left behind? Just push.

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no...on the river i have ~$3300 after i bet out the $800... so calling the 2k raise is pretty pointless. this is effectively a decision for the rest of my stack.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 live, mid set facing river raise from super tight nit

I c/r this flop like always if you have an aggro image, but w/e, calling here can't be too bad either. As for the hand....eerrrrrr....weird spot. Pretty obvious other guy has a flush and probably wont fold for another 1200, but the nit makes things really complicated IMO. Do you think he checks QQ on the turn here?? I ask because some people will always bet the turn with qq and some will always check. This is a pretty [censored] up spot because I just can't see villian doing this without QQ or the nut flush. I dunno I probably just say [censored] it and push but I don't think flatting all that terrible.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:55 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 live, mid set facing river raise from super tight nit

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So only 1200 left behind? Just push.

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no...on the river i have ~$3300 after i bet out the $800... so calling the 2k raise is pretty pointless. this is effectively a decision for the rest of my stack.

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Calling the river is already assumed. The only decision is the raise your last $1300 and since you will be laying such sweet odds and fish is in hand just push.

If you are thinking of folding, well I am not sure what to say.
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Old 08-17-2007, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 live, mid set facing river raise from super tight nit

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So only 1200 left behind? Just push.

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no...on the river i have ~$3300 after i bet out the $800... so calling the 2k raise is pretty pointless. this is effectively a decision for the rest of my stack.

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Go all in and run to the bar immediately after he instacalls with QQ.
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Old 08-17-2007, 09:06 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 live, mid set facing river raise from super tight nit

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If you are thinking of folding, well I am not sure what to say.

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you really don't think a fold is an option here? this is an instacall/push for the extra ~$1300??
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:05 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 live, mid set facing river raise from super tight nit

You're 200+bbs deeps and decide to play the way the makes the least and makes your hand super obvious. good job.
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:27 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 live, mid set facing river raise from super tight nit

i dont think hes checking QQ on the turn with the flushdraw out, if yes you still have to pay it off - a flush is much more likely, we can disregard the possibility the idiot has you beat i think...

but still you want to get your stack in on the flop or at least at the turn so play your hand accordingly
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Old 08-17-2007, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: 10/20 live, mid set facing river raise from super tight nit

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i dont think hes checking QQ on the turn with the flushdraw out, if yes you still have to pay it off - a flush is much more likely, we can disregard the possibility the idiot has you beat i think...

but still you want to get your stack in on the flop or at least at the turn so play your hand accordingly

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ummm...the turn paired the board.
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