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Old 03-07-2007, 03:52 AM
ClubChamp04 ClubChamp04 is offline
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Default $1-2 hand from Vegas

This game was probably the toughest game I played while in Vegas. Sunday night at Harrahs and most of the players seem competent. Effective stacks are about $250.

So I raise $11 in LP with 55 and get called by the button and BB. Flop($33)- A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 10 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], I fire $20 and get called by the button. Turn($73)- J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], this is where the hand gets difficult. How do you guys handle these situations? It might be best to lead but what happens when he pushes? He plays aggressive and could hold almost anything here.I feel that I butchered the hand so I'd like to see what you guys think.
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Old 03-07-2007, 11:52 AM
Javanewt Javanewt is offline
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Default Re: $1-2 hand from Vegas

I wish someone would respond to this. I'm not good enough. I'd either bet about $50 on the turn and fold to a re-raise or check and hope he checks behind. If I bet and he calls, I'd really have to re-evaluate river. If I check, I might call a resonable bet and hope for a great card on the river. Very tough spot. It will be interesting to see what the better players would do.

OK, honestly, I'm weak and I'd probably check then re-evaluate depeding on villain's action.
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Old 03-07-2007, 12:03 PM
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Default Re: $1-2 hand from Vegas

tough spot, look him in the eye, determine if he made a flush, and play accordingly
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Old 03-07-2007, 12:14 PM
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Default Re: $1-2 hand from Vegas

History is important.

Does he float a lot?
How has he responded to this situation in the past?
How does he view you and your cbets?

Answering these questions and you'll have a better sense. That being said this is a tough spot but even if he has a flush you have outs.

I'd probably check turn and lead river 1/2 pot.

I'd call a moderate bet on turn, if I felt it were weak I'd raise the bet but that it is villain dependent.
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Old 03-07-2007, 12:34 PM
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Default Re: $1-2 hand from Vegas

I'd bet $50. The problem is river if called.
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Old 03-07-2007, 01:28 PM
KurtSF KurtSF is offline
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Default Re: $1-2 hand from Vegas

Gut-feel answer: I check-call a reasonable bet on this flop, hoping to fill up on the river.

Some mathiness: Say he bets $60 on the turn. You're calling $60 with $133 in the pot. You improve 10/46 or 21.7% or 3.6:1, so you would need to get $83 in on the river when you hit to make this +EV. Add in the times he was taking a stab at the pot with Ax and river is checked thru, and I think this is OK.

Read dependent, of course. $0.02

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Old 03-08-2007, 10:57 AM
afadeyi afadeyi is offline
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Default Re: $1-2 hand from Vegas

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Gut-feel answer: I check-call a reasonable bet on this flop, hoping to fill up on the river.

Some mathiness: Say he bets $60 on the turn. You're calling $60 with $133 in the pot. You improve 10/46 or 21.7% or 3.6:1, so you would need to get $83 in on the river when you hit to make this +EV. Add in the times he was taking a stab at the pot with Ax and river is checked thru, and I think this is OK.

Read dependent, of course. $0.02

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I agree with this. First I would have bet more on the flop and checked the turn. If i sensed weakness I might even check raise if I thought he could lay down a flush and/or wasn't pot committed. He might check behing too, you never know.
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Old 03-07-2007, 01:32 PM
GeterPriffin GeterPriffin is offline
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Default Re: $1-2 hand from Vegas

If you bet and get raised allin, are you going to call in hopes of hitting your boat? If so, i'd bet then. If not, I'd play it safe and check turn and call river. You might induce a river bluff...

Of course, it depends on what type of player villain is.
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Old 03-07-2007, 03:38 PM
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Default Re: $1-2 hand from Vegas

IMO he's betting (or calling) with a weak A/ flush draw to the A. I would bet the turn (maybe 70%-100% of the pot). If he only calls you might still be ahead. If he pushes I'll re-evaluate my position based on my read on him.
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Old 03-07-2007, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: $1-2 hand from Vegas

Absence of reads. I think you have to bet the turn and call a push.
you raised from the CO and he flat called. Then you fired a standard CB. He could have called that bet with AQ AJ floated behind with 99 88 77 maybe others.
You are obviously behind suited club connectors and TT. I think TT has to raise the flop with the drawy board.
Dont have Poker stove avaible to me now but our pot equity has to look pretty good.
I think it is disatraous to give a free ride to top pair and a flush redraw, even the pairs that might float have a free draw at a club. Even if he has the flush you have a redraw
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