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Old 11-27-2007, 10:49 PM
Performify Performify is offline
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Default Re: How does a book determine if you\'re a sharp?

Cat is incorrect.

Bodog (and most other sites) deal sharp lines by account, regardless of IP. Your behavior there gets flagged as sharp (primarily betting primarily the underdogs which are shaded towards) and that account is flagged as sharp. If you clear your cookies and log out you can get the square lines again, until you log in again.

IP-based tracking is a less than effective way to do differentiation, based on the prevalence of regional ISPs who dynamically assign from a pool of addresses. And the ease of getting a new IP, as you mention

Not to say if you're consistently accessing the sportsbook from two separate accounts from the same IP they won't also notice -- the online security teams are relatively active for the sportsbooks, just less so than the poker side.

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Old 11-27-2007, 11:27 PM
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Default Re: How does a book determine if you\'re a sharp?

Ok, just since this thread has fogged the view, can I get a clarification on whether Pinny double-deals lines? I always thought they didn't.
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Old 11-27-2007, 11:31 PM
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Default Re: How does a book determine if you\'re a sharp?

Pinnacle has never dealt double lines to my knowledge.

They have served different limits.

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Old 11-28-2007, 12:50 AM
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Default Re: How does a book determine if you\'re a sharp?

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Pinnacle has never dealt double lines to my knowledge.

They have served different limits.

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Old 11-28-2007, 12:54 AM
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Default Re: How does a book determine if you\'re a sharp?

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Bodog (and most other sites) deal sharp lines by account, regardless of IP. Your behavior there gets flagged as sharp ( primarily betting primarily the underdogs which are shaded towards ) and that account is flagged as sharp.



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I bet on Bodog almost exclusively for this reason.(and their props obv)

So what sort of betting amounts are we talking about here to get flagged as a sharp?

$50/game 2-3 times a week?
$100/game 8-10 times/week?
Way more than I'll ever have to worry about? [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
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Old 11-28-2007, 01:01 AM
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Default Re: How does a book determine if you\'re a sharp?

Bodog's sharp lines are usually shaded towards the underdogs, just not so much.

If you exclusively bet underdogs at Bodog, even at $10 a bet, I imagine you'll be on the sharp lines after a couple weeks.

Check from two different browsers as suggested above (one logged in, one which has never logged in / has cookies cleared) and I wouldn't be surprised to see if you're already getting the sharp lines.

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Old 11-28-2007, 01:07 AM
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The square lines aren't that much different and not on any bettors top 25 list of things they care about. People make such a production over this and it's a complete waste.

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Old 11-29-2007, 12:53 AM
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Default Re: How does a book determine if you\'re a sharp?

it's no problem to have a db automatically generate reports containing any information needed. who is winning would be one such.
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