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11-12-2007, 01:53 AM
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450bb deep, Top 2 in reraised pot
5/10 9-handed live game. I have been playing LAG and dominating the table. Villain is fairly new to the table and the only real info I have on him is that he called 3 barrels with JJ on a Q-high board in a reraised pot. Stacks: Villain has $4500 and I cover.
I raise to $40 in UTG+1 with K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], MP calls, villain raises to $200 in the cutoff, button smooth-calls, I call, MP folds. Flop ($650): K [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] I check, villain bets $300, button folds, I call. Turn ($1250): 4 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] I check, villain bets $600, I raise to $1800, villain goes all in for $4000 total. Call or fold? How was my line and what is the standard line here (other than fold preflop)? 
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#3
11-12-2007, 02:25 AM
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Re: 450bb deep, Top 2 in reraised pot
Yeah pf is pretty meh, but it's not really that bad (the initial raise) either, especially if the table is deep in general. Focusing on preflop is pretty nitty anyways, but I don't see any reason to call the reraise, in fact I think it's pretty big spew without a really good idea of how he plays.
Anyways postflop I think is alright, but I'd just raise the flop and get it in if he lets you. If you raise the turn, you should obviously call a shove, though.
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#4
11-12-2007, 02:25 AM
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Re: 450bb deep, Top 2 in reraised pot
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fold pre.... twice [/ QUOTE ] Definitely. Given the information you have I'd raise this flop allllll day. On turn, why would you check-raise like that if you even have to consider folding?
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#5
11-12-2007, 02:39 AM
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Re: 450bb deep, Top 2 in reraised pot
Everyone saying fold prefop twice is wrong. I can definitely play KTs profitably from early position in this game (which is loose, deep-stacked, with a few donks in the game) so I stand by my initial raise. Now I agree that calling the reraise is probably pretty bad. But I'm not too interested in the preflop part of this hand. The real issue is how comfortable can I be getting 450bbs all in with top two in a reraised pot, because 450bbs is a LOT. Basically, how likely is it that villain has KK or TT? Also I usually raise the flop but I thought that this deep, waiting for a safe turn card wouldn't be a bad idea.
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#6
11-12-2007, 02:49 AM
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Re: 450bb deep, Top 2 in reraised pot
in live 5/10, the open is probably close to neutral EV if you're decent
calling the RR is ---EV
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#8
11-12-2007, 02:58 AM
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Re: 450bb deep, Top 2 in reraised pot
why do u c/r the turn if u dont wanna call?
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#10
11-12-2007, 04:25 AM
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Re: 450bb deep, Top 2 in reraised pot
raise flop and get it in. now call turn. his half pot-half pot-shove line is pretty scary but meh. this would actually be a spot where information about his behaviour and how long it took him to push could probably be quite useful, but in absence of any such information i probably just call and start sobbing when he tables KK, or do a jig when he shows AA and the river blanks.
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