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08-28-2007, 12:48 AM
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God I hate AQ
FTP Daily Double, about 60 left. No reads on villian as he just got to the table like 5 hands ago.
Hero (60.7k in chips) has A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], and is UTG+1 Blinds 2000/1000-250 ante Hero opens for 6k, 4 folds, villian 1 calls (150.5k), SB Villian 2 (100.2k) makes it 10k to go, we both call. I know his minraise is basically saying his range is TT+,AK, and probably QQ/KK and maybe AA. But I'm getting really good odds here, both implied and immediate, I have to call. Also I have position on the raiser. Flop: T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Villian 2 bets out 18k, What's my line? 
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#3
08-28-2007, 03:51 AM
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Re: God I hate AQ
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FTP Daily Double, about 60 left. No reads on villian as he just got to the table like 5 hands ago. Hero (60.7k in chips) has A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], and is UTG+1 Blinds 2000/1000-250 ante Hero opens for 6k, 4 folds, villian 1 calls (150.5k), SB Villian 2 (100.2k) makes it 10k to go, we both call. I know his minraise is basically saying his range is TT+,AK, and probably QQ/KK and maybe AA. But I'm getting really good odds here, both implied and immediate, I have to call. Also I have position on the raiser. Flop: T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]5 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Villian 2 bets out 18k, What's my line? [/ QUOTE ] With AQo...your implied odds here are almost non-existent, IMO. You have 2 chances to win a big pot (flop 2 Q's or Broadway) and about 1001 ways to lose a big pot...and this flop looks like one of them.
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#4
08-28-2007, 05:48 AM
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Re: God I hate AQ
You open from UTG+1 with a small raise (in comparison to blinds+antes) and get one caller (not respecting your scary raise!) AND one min-raiser (even less respecting your scary raise) - who shows you that he is not afraid of one / two callers. This does not seem like TT+ for me, honestly ...
So, what are you hoping for on the flop? As erc said, you don´t have the correct implied odds ... even while getting 8:1. The flop - besides gutshot / flush-draws is one of the best flops you could hope for. Nevertheless you´re in the situation where you easily could lose your whole stack without having any information at all. Said this, I tend to fold preflop (!!) and I certainly fold the flop.
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#6
08-28-2007, 06:27 AM
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Re: God I hate AQ
Hmm, I definitely consider folding pre-flop, I think his range is pretty much QQ+, and maybe AK, but I think this is less likely.
On the flop, I think there's a decent chance you have the best hand, the only porblem is how to confirm this without losing all your chips. I think a high pair is much more likely that AK for the min-raise pre-flop. Furthermore, you have one of the aces, and one has just hit the board, so it becomes less likely. I think a flat call is OK here, I think KK, QQ are likely to slow down on the turn (especially if a spade hits), where-as AK and AA are definitely betting.
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#7
08-28-2007, 06:58 AM
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Re: God I hate AQ
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I think a flat call is OK here, I think KK, QQ are likely to slow down on the turn (especially if a spade hits), where-as AK and AA are definitely betting. [/ QUOTE ] Investing nearly half of my remaining stack here to see if Villain slows down on the turn does not seem like a good idea for me ... and how often do we estimate Villain to make a weak c-bet on THIS flop against two opponents with KK?
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#8
08-28-2007, 08:09 AM
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Re: God I hate AQ
I agree with tackleberry, this is a fold preflop.
The only flop you would like to see is a straight and therefore your odds/implied odds are too bad. This is one of the spots where i really would prefer AQ to be suited to call. Postflop i muck this as fast as i can.
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