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Old 11-14-2007, 06:17 PM
mattiesmat mattiesmat is offline
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Default $16 - 33 vs LAGG

I find myself in a lot of tough spots last days and especially today and I keep losing those ones.
Should I not cbet because he is so LAGG(45/19)?
Value bet the river, first time?
Call his bet as played?
Anyway, how is this?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) by Hand Converter CG

BB (t3970)
UTG (t1420)
Button (t3170)
Hero (t4940)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t550</font>, BB calls t350.

Flop: (t975) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t700</font>, BB calls t700.

Turn: (t2375) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks.

River: (t2375) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t1000</font>, Hero calls t1000.

Final Pot: t4375
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: $16 - 33 vs LAGG

I'd raise to 500 pf, and I think you have to bet the flop.
River seems like a good call.
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:20 PM
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Default Re: $16 - 33 vs LAGG

I dunno about that c bet right there. I don't think I would have done that probably checked. Better to lose that t550 to a fold then to potentially lose a lot more.
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:23 PM
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Default Re: $16 - 33 vs LAGG

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I'd raise to 500 pf, and I think you have to bet the flop.
River seems like a good call.

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There were antes, that's why I betted 550.
Also I think I should have bet a bit less on the flop, like 600.
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:28 PM
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Default Re: $16 - 33 vs LAGG

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I'd raise to 500 pf, and I think you have to bet the flop.
River seems like a good call.

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Why do you think you have to bet at that flop?
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: $16 - 33 vs LAGG

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I'd raise to 500 pf, and I think you have to bet the flop.
River seems like a good call.

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Why do you think you have to bet at that flop?

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It's not so likely that he hit a Q(compared to an A), and we might want to protect against drawing spades.
7 and 4 are pretty unlikely to be in his holding, unless he just made a set(well, which is also not very likely [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] ).
Also, if we're going to c/f all kinds of flops just because villain is a LAG, there's no point in raising pf.
We have initiative, let's use it.
It's not that our hand has the greatest showdownvalue ever and we hate to get raised.
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Old 11-14-2007, 06:57 PM
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Default Re: $16 - 33 vs LAGG

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I'd raise to 500 pf, and I think you have to bet the flop.
River seems like a good call.

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Why do you think you have to bet at that flop?

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It's the only way to win the hand unless he checks behind and you spike a 3, or backdoor a straight. I like the hand as played, the way the hand played out vs a guy like this I'd expect them to bet the river most of the time.
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Old 11-14-2007, 07:00 PM
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Default Re: $16 - 33 vs LAGG

Thanks for the explanation.
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