Stud8 - stealing from bring-in

[Raxxmataxx]

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7th this one's close.

[/ QUOTE ]Not really, betting that sort of hand when checked to on the river is terrible.

It would be a bit different out of position, but not much. It has plenty of showdown value, and very little betting value. All betting accomplishes is diminishing the showdown value. Especially as you lose some bluffs by betting OOP.

Not to mention that you will be betting near 100% of your range if you bet so low on the river. Which is obviously very exploitable when your opponent can dismiss low hands with fairly high precision as well as potentially having stronger high hands.

If you do this sort of thing a lot you've got a big leak in your river game.

[roggles]

As I said, my reason for betting was that I thought I could fold out a better hand against some small amount of very weak villains. Maybe this is simply not true, and my reason for betting is bad.

Villain did actually call with a pair of 7s in this hand, so that gives some credibility to djk's value bet.

I really only see him beating us for high here in case he spiked a J or Q on the river (or maybe, unlikely, a straight), and he's not raising with that . So I don't see how this is such a huge leak. I could probably convince myself it's a reasonable value bet.

[Raxxmataxx]

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As I said, my reason for betting was that I thought I could fold out a better hand against some small amount of very weak villains. Maybe this is simply not true, and my reason for betting is bad.

[/ QUOTE ]You'd have to be extremely sure about him being such a player for bluffing to be right.

And you'd be off trying to win every hand as well. If you play perfectly you're going to lose some hands to checking back on the river you'd won had you bet. Trying to pick up those pots is a huge waste of time and energy that's going to turn your game pretty unbalanced and generally have you focusing too much on irrelevant info.

[djk123]

i never said i always bet here, but against certain opponents betting could be okay. if you have an aggressive image or if BI is a calling station, then you should bet. a calling station is going to look you up with 1 pair a fair bit.

also based on the texture of his board and the action of the hand so far, it is highly unlikely that villain had >1 pair of nines. thus, villain will usually have < 99 on river, so a bet cannot be all that bad if you think he will make a crying call with a medium pair some % of the time.