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Old 10-25-2007, 05:09 PM
MatthewRyan MatthewRyan is offline
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Default Re: 4bet pot against poly_baller

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yeah i really disagree with check calling here

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oh cool thanks for your opinions on the hand

checking calling makes more sense than people think

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which unpaired hands is he calling with tho? AX is a no. is he calling a 4bet with QK or 65s stuff?
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Old 10-25-2007, 05:16 PM
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Default Re: 4bet pot against poly_baller

maybe? the original post sucks at describing how they have been playing with each other, so i cant answer that.
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Old 10-25-2007, 05:31 PM
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part 3 is the part i don't understand, but w/e. depends on how often you think he checks behind and how often he shows up with unpaired trashy things that are trying to outrace AK. i think neither thing happens enough.


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thing is the 4bet is only 80 more. i just dont see him folding much there, so his range is closer to his overall 3betting range. so, i actually think OP has the best hand enough to warrant not folding.


agree he never has AK btw*

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it's utg vs co. if you are calling super light against a utg 4 bet, you are spewing money.

c/c on this flop is not very good. it'd have merit on a co vs button battle or blind battle.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:02 PM
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Default Re: 4bet pot against poly_baller

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i kinda like check calling

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Old 10-25-2007, 06:04 PM
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i kinda like check calling

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at least give a reason jesus
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: 4bet pot against poly_baller

dont commit over a quater of ur stsk pre, just go all in.......hand becomes simple
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: 4bet pot against poly_baller

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i kinda like check calling

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w/o some history or read that poly is calling this 4 bet light a decent amount this sucks however it still has more merit than shoving IMO.

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dont commit over a quater of ur stsk pre, just go all in.......hand becomes simple

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this comment is just completely ridiculous.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:14 PM
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i kinda like check calling

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at least give a reason jesus

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we are getting 2:1 on our call, we sometimes win, better chance of getting it in vs AQ/AJ or whatever this way.

this all assumes that the two players have played a few 4bet pots before etc etc
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:19 PM
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Default Re: 4bet pot against poly_baller

c/f. future doc is right, all types of villians call here w/ any pair.
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Old 10-25-2007, 06:19 PM
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i kinda like check calling

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at least give a reason jesus

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we are getting 2:1 on our call, we sometimes win, better chance of getting it in vs AQ/AJ or whatever this way.

this all assumes that the two players have played a few 4bet pots before etc etc

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Granted my view may be skewed b/c I have a LOT of history w/ Poly, but I actually think we have a better chance of getting in vs his AQ/AJ if we shove here than if we c/c. I don't know how the game was playing or what history the 2 of you have, but if he did call the 4 bet w/ AQ or AJ, it was not w/ the intention of folding. I'm not saying shove is the right play either, I'm just saying it's got a better chance of getting in vs his AQ or AJ than c/c does.
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