Ask me about financial success to spending 2 years state prison

[BaldElephant]

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Well according to op, he didn't know that he was involved in any illegal activity.

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That's not really a valid defense you know...

[XXXNoahXXX]

KneeCo,

Obviously most people that plead guilty and go to jail are guilty and I would bet that he did something that broke the law.

As you said yourself that doesn't make it so, so we probably shouldn't string up the OP based upon a "likelihood" or whatever your standard is.

[KneeCo]

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KneeCo,

Obviously most people that plead guilty and go to jail are guilty and I would bet that he did something that broke the law.

As you said yourself that doesn't make it so, so we probably shouldn't string up the OP based upon a "likelihood" or whatever your standard is.

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I'm not stringing him up at all (hell even if he *did* break the law, he already paid his debt, so there's no reason to string him up in either case).

I'm just answering his question, he asked:
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I would seroiously like to know why you think I broke the law.

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So I answered: he went to jail.

[XXXNoahXXX]

KneeCo,

He was responding to FlyWf who was being retarded. It's not like he was shocked that someone would draw that conclusion, but Fly comes out swinging like the OP was eating babies and posted a picture of the leftovers.

[KneeCo]

Noah,

Fair enough, I didn't read Fly's stuff and I never claimed to agree with it, but the your one liner calling him (and later me) retarded for saying pleading guilty = evidence of law breaking, and OP's line about not having provided anything that is evidence of breaking the law both caught my eye and I think both are incorrect, which I believe I've proved.

Also, fwiw, I should rethink my last post. I said that if he broke the law he's repaid his debt, that's not really true I guess. Although he did do his time, I have to think someone who never admitted breaking the law couldn't have actually repaid their debt. So if he did break the law, he still owes society.

[microbet]

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Noah,

Fair enough, I didn't read Fly's stuff and I never claimed to agree with it, but the your one liner calling him (and later me) retarded for saying pleading guilty = evidence of law breaking, and OP's line about not having provided anything that is evidence of breaking the law both caught my eye and I think both are incorrect, which I believe I've proved.

Also, fwiw, I should rethink my last post. I said that if he broke the law he's repaid his debt, that's not really true I guess. Although he did do his time, I have to think someone who never admitted breaking the law couldn't have actually repaid their debt. So if he did break the law, he still owes society.

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No one ever expects the Spanish Inquisition.

[xx44]

All,

I started the thread mainly because I thought you would be interested hearing the experiences of someone whose life made a sudden turn, the da's handling of the prosecution is incidental. I do not want to argue as to my guilt or innocence.

Think about it, at the time I was probably only a few years older than most of the posters here. The success I achieved was what I wished for when I was in college. Regardless of how I got there, my $4k/month apt, was changed for a bunk in a 48sqft room with a murderer as a roommate. Surely there are questions of thexperience.

[David H]

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Also, fwiw, I should rethink my last post. I said that if he broke the law he's repaid his debt, that's not really true I guess. Although he did do his time, I have to think someone who never admitted breaking the law couldn't have actually repaid their debt. So if he did break the law, he still owes society.

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Are you saying that if a person does not believe they owe a debt, it is impossible for them to repay this debt?

For example, say I borrow $20 from a friend(For the purpose of this scenario, $20 means a lot more to him than it does to me). A week later, he asks for the money back. I have a terrible memory, and I think I have already paid him back. (I do not believe I have any outstanding debt). Rather than make a big deal out of the situation, I pay him, for what I believe is the second time.

Now, I am paying a debt that I do not believe I owe. Is my $20 still a legitimate payment, or do I have to fully believe that I owe him money in order for my cash to be worth anything?

[FlyWf]

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KneeCo,

He was responding to FlyWf who was being retarded. It's not like he was shocked that someone would draw that conclusion, but Fly comes out swinging like the OP was eating babies and posted a picture of the leftovers.

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What the the hell are you talking about?

[xxThe_Lebowskixx]

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I would seroiously like to know why you think I broke the law.

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So I answered: he went to jail.

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He was charged with 18 counts, 18 different crimes. If the government sets out to [censored] you, you are either going to need some ridiculously good lawyers or you are going to jail. Look at MTR's story. He was a college kid and had some liquid based drug and they were able to charge him with the entire weight of the liquid+drug, not just the drug. Why? Because that drug was just getting popular and they needed to meet a quota.

Government just cares about meeting quotas and keeping their competitionless careers moving forward, not following a logical format or actually making a difference.