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Old 09-22-2007, 07:49 AM
Rottersod Rottersod is offline
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Default 2 Pair keeps Improving or getting worse?

3 handed ring game. Blinds are 1/2. Effective stacks at $120. Villain is a calling station pre-flop.

Button (Me): Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Raise to $6
SB (villain) Calls
BB: Calls

Flop T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

SB: Check; BB: Check; I bet $12. SB Calls. BB folds. Pot: $42

Turn: Q [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

SB checks. I bet $30. SB goes AI. Pot is $102 plus his all in for another $70 or so. Lets say $172 total.

Am I drawing to 2 outs or ahead to 4, 9 or 12 outs? Easy lay down or hard call?
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:10 AM
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Default Re: 2 Pair keeps Improving or getting worse?

easy lay down on the flop and this is full ring forum not short handed.
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Old 09-22-2007, 09:55 AM
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Default Re: 2 Pair keeps Improving or getting worse?

Fold flop.
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Old 09-22-2007, 11:38 AM
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Default Re: 2 Pair keeps Improving or getting worse?

I can' see a hand that you beat, remember, you're pair of sevens isn't even counting anymore, so you're behind every T, a pair of 7s and every (unprobable AA or KK). You're even losing against a higher Q...Very easy fold.
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Old 09-22-2007, 01:57 PM
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Default Re: 2 Pair keeps Improving or getting worse?

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easy lay down on the flop and this is full ring forum not short handed.

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Why would he ever lay down on flop? He wasn't bet into or raised? He was PF aggressor.

Turn is easy fold
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:47 PM
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Default Re: 2 Pair keeps Improving or getting worse?

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easy lay down on the flop and this is full ring forum not short handed.

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Why would he ever lay down on flop? He wasn't bet into or raised? He was PF aggressor.

Turn is easy fold

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100% fold or can I consider he is on a flush or gutshot draw?
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Old 09-22-2007, 04:49 PM
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I can' see a hand that you beat, remember, you're pair of sevens isn't even counting anymore, so you're behind every T, a pair of 7s and every (unprobable AA or KK). You're even losing against a higher Q...Very easy fold.

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If you were villain would you play AQ, KQ, QJ that way?
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