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Old 11-16-2007, 03:00 AM
Cobretti Cobretti is offline
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Default K6s in BB versus super tight raiser

Sorry, lame beginner question. I am sitting here with a bunch of players and we are arguing over a BB hand. A super tight player who raises UTG 6% of the time raises (6-handed). You have a very good read on the player and you trust the 6%. All fold to you in the BB. You have K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]. Do you call or fold?

I argued it was an easy fold. Another player argued it was an easy call and 2 players were not sure.

1) What is your minimum Kxs hand against a 6% raiser?
2) How often would a player have to raise to call with K6s?

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Old 11-16-2007, 03:06 AM
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Default Re: K6s in BB versus super tight raiser

I'm not sure either.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 68.691% 68.31% 00.38% 91232234 511777.50 { 88+, ATs+, KQs, AQo+ }
Hand 1: 31.309% 30.93% 00.38% 41303923 511777.50 { Kh6h }
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Old 11-16-2007, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: K6s in BB versus super tight raiser

If he plays slightly better than very bad postflop this is a heckka fold.
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Old 11-16-2007, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: K6s in BB versus super tight raiser

vmcosta: that is too wide a range.
AA-JJ, AK, AQ, AJ and KQ (both suited and unsuted) is 6,6% of all starting hands.
Even KJs is a fold here.
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Old 11-16-2007, 04:24 AM
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Default Re: K6s in BB versus super tight raiser

Stox book says that you should have 35% equity to call raise in BB. Little less when your opponent plays poorly postflop and even more when he plays well postflop.
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Old 11-16-2007, 04:33 AM
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Default Re: K6s in BB versus super tight raiser

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vmcosta: that is too wide a range.
AA-JJ, AK, AQ, AJ and KQ (both suited and unsuted) is 6,6% of all starting hands.
Even KJs is a fold here.

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uh, dude, what are you talking about?

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Old 11-16-2007, 05:19 AM
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Stox book says that you should have 35% equity to call raise in BB. Little less when your opponent plays poorly postflop and even more when he plays well postflop.

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good point, it's probably not as close as I initially alluded.
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:34 AM
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Default Re: K6s in BB versus super tight raiser

1/KTs
2/15%
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Old 11-16-2007, 05:52 AM
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Default Re: K6s in BB versus super tight raiser

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vmcosta: that is too wide a range.
AA-JJ, AK, AQ, AJ and KQ (both suited and unsuted) is 6,6% of all starting hands.
Even KJs is a fold here.

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uh, dude, what are you talking about?



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Ah, sorry. I should have done the math first and red your post better.
By dropping some of the offsuited cards you are getting rid of a lot of hands.

Now that I have done the math I'm getting exactly 6% on your range. (Should I be getting 6,5%?)
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