LHE: -35bb in 45 hands vs aggressive villain

yourface · #1 09-23-2007, 08:38 PM

villain is unknown when he sat down
I quit him after 45 hands because I was starting to tilt
after reading through the hands, please tell me what you think of villain and how much of an edge I (or you) would have vs him

******* Hand 1 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
yourface folds, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 1 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: 0.25BB

******* Hand 2 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB raises, yourface calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2.5BB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface calls.

River: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface calls.

Results:
Final pot: 6.5BB
SB shows AH 3S 
yourface shows 3D KS 

******* Hand 3 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
yourface folds, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 1 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: 0.25BB

******* Hand 4 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB raises, yourface calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface raises, SB calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3.5BB, 2 players)
yourface bets, SB raises, yourface calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7.5BB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface raises, SB 3-bets, yourface calls.

Results:
Final pot: 13.5BB
SB shows AH10H 
yourface shows 9C 6D 

******* Hand 5 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB raises, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 0.5 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: 1BB

******* Hand 6 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
yourface raises, BB calls.

Flop: A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 6.5BB
yourface shows 10S 6D 
I forget what he had here

******* Hand 7 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB calls, yourface checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2SB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB checks.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (1BB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface calls.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface calls.

Results:
Final pot: 5BB
SB shows 6S KC 
yourface shows 2H10C 
I didn't think that he would limp a K

******* Hand 8 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
yourface raises, BB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB raises, yourface 3-bets, BB calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to yourface.

Results:
Final pot: 4.5BB
I didn't wait for the turn to raise because my hand is so strong that I want to go to war if he shows up with a strong second best hand

******* Hand 9 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
yourface raises, BB 3-bets, yourface caps, BB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6SB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8BB
yourface shows KC QC 
I was hoping that A high would fold to the river bet. I would have been wrong, seeing as he looked me up with a worse K here

******* Hand 10 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB raises, yourface 3-bets, SB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
yourface bets, SB calls.

Turn: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
yourface bets, SB raises, yourface calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (7BB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: 7BB

dunno about this one. my thinking on the turn was that a lot of draws just became available and he could also have diamonds maybe. the river improved a lot of draws.
should I have called anyways?
should I have folded to the turn bet? checked the turn?

******* Hand 11 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
yourface raises, BB calls.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players)
BB bets, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 1SB returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: 1.5BB

******* Hand 12 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB raises, yourface 3-bets, SB caps, yourface calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6SB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface raises, SB 3-bets, yourface caps, SB calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (12BB, 2 players)
yourface bets, SB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 14BB
yourface shows QC JH 
SB shows QH AH 

should I always c/r the flop here? turn too strong?

******* Hand 13 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB raises, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 0.5 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: 1BB

******* Hand 14 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
yourface raises, BB 3-bets, yourface calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
BB bets, yourface calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
BB bets, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: 3BB

******* Hand 15 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB folds.
Uncalled bets: 1 returned to yourface.

Results:
Final pot: 0.25BB

******* Hand 16 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
yourface raises, BB 3-bets, yourface caps, BB calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6SB, 2 players)
BB bets, yourface calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players)
BB bets, yourface calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6BB, 2 players)
BB bets, yourface calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8BB
BB shows 10C 8H 
yourface shows AC JD 

folding anywhere seemed WAY too exploitable. and why would
he play a good hand like that anyways

******* Hand 17 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB raises, yourface 3-bets, SB calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
yourface bets, SB calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
yourface bets, SB raises, yourface calls.

River: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7BB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface calls.

Results:
Final pot: 9BB
SB shows 7H 4H 
yourface shows JD AD 

******* Hand 18 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
yourface raises, BB calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 6.5BB
yourface shows 8D 8S 
he had A3

******* Hand 19 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB raises, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 0.5 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: 1BB

******* Hand 20 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
yourface raises, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB folds.
Uncalled bets: 1SB returned to yourface.

Results:
Final pot: 1.5BB

******* Hand 21 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
yourface raises, BB calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB raises, yourface calls.

Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface checks.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3.5BB, 2 players)
BB bets, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: 3.5BB
weird line from villain here

******* Hand 22 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB raises, yourface 3-bets, SB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
yourface bets, SB calls.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
yourface bets, SB calls.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5BB, 2 players)
yourface bets, SB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 7BB
yourface shows KH10H 
he had K6

******* Hand 23 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
yourface folds, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 1 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: 0.25BB

******* Hand 24 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB raises, yourface calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2.5BB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface calls.

River: K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB checks.

Results:
Final pot: 4.5BB
yourface shows KH 7D 
I forget if he checked behind a pair here.
I figured to have the best hand frequently on the turn, as he would be betting it with his whole range. anyone like a turn c/r?

******* Hand 25 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
yourface raises, BB calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface checks.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2.5BB, 2 players)
BB bets, yourface calls.

Results:
Final pot: 4.5BB
BB shows 3S 6S 
yourface shows 6D 7D 
I saw schneids do this a couple times in his 5/T huhu vid. the idea is to induce a bluff and show villain that he can't bluff the river at will when we check behind the turn

******* Hand 26 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB raises, yourface 3-bets, SB caps, yourface calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6SB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: 4BB

******* Hand 27 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
yourface raises, BB 3-bets, yourface calls.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
BB bets, yourface calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface checks.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface checks.

Results:
Final pot: 3BB
BB shows JD QC 
yourface shows 10D 8S 
anyone stab at this? I took his turn line to mean he has a high card and is showing it down, oops

******* Hand 28 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB calls, yourface checks.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2SB, 2 players)
yourface bets, SB calls.

Turn: A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2BB, 2 players)
yourface bets, SB calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players)
yourface bets, SB raises, yourface calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8BB
SB shows 5S 3C 
yourface shows 6D 4D 

******* Hand 29 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
yourface folds, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 1 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: 0.25BB

******* Hand 30 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB folds.
Uncalled bets: 1 returned to yourface.

Results:
Final pot: 0.25BB

******* Hand 31 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
yourface raises, BB calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB calls.

River: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB raises, yourface calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8.5BB
BB shows 3H KH 
yourface shows 6C QC 

his line didn't really make sense. maybe a bad call

******* Hand 32 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB raises, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 0.5 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: 1BB

******* Hand 33 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
yourface raises, BB calls.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 6.5BB
yourface shows 8S AD 
I think he had like Q9 here

******* Hand 34 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB raises, yourface calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface raises, SB 3-bets, yourface calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (4.5BB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6.5BB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: 6.5BB

mehhhh

******* Hand 35 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
SB calls, yourface checks.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2SB, 2 players)
yourface bets, SB calls.

Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2BB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB checks.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2BB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB bets, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 1BB returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: 2BB

bet turn? I usually give up when I'm called on such a ridiculously ragged flop, but this guy peels pretty damn light

******* Hand 36 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
yourface raises, BB 3-bets, yourface calls.

Flop: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
BB bets, yourface calls.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
BB bets, yourface calls.

River: T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5BB, 2 players)
BB bets, yourface calls.

Results:
Final pot: 7BB
BB shows AS AD 
yourface shows 6H 3H 

anyone play this more aggressively?

******* Hand 37 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
yourface raises, BB calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB raises, yourface calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3.5BB, 2 players)
BB bets, yourface raises, BB calls.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 9.5BB
yourface shows KH 5C 
he had A8

******* Hand 38 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
SB raises, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 0.5 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: 1BB

******* Hand 39 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
yourface raises, BB calls.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3SB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB raises, yourface calls.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (3.5BB, 2 players)
BB bets, yourface calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5.5BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface checks.

Results:
Final pot: 5.5BB
BB shows JC 8D 
yourface shows 6C KS 

I hate it when this happens

******* Hand 40 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
yourface folds, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 1 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: 0.25BB

******* Hand 41 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB raises, yourface 3-bets, SB calls.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
yourface bets, SB calls.

Turn: K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
yourface bets, SB calls.

River: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5BB, 2 players)
yourface checks, SB checks.

Results:
Final pot: 5BB
yourface shows JC QS 
SB shows 4C AC 

I was going to call a bet here
I didn't see him folding any better hands to a river bet

******* Hand 42 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
SB raises, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 0.5 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: 1BB

******* Hand 43 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
yourface folds, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 1 returned to BB.

Results:
Final pot: 0.25BB

******* Hand 44 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is BB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
SB raises, yourface folds.
Uncalled bets: 0.5 returned to SB.

Results:
Final pot: 1BB

******* Hand 45 ********

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Pre-flop: (2 players) yourface is SB with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
yourface raises, BB 3-bets, yourface calls.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4SB, 2 players)
BB bets, yourface calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3BB, 2 players)
BB bets, yourface raises, BB calls.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7BB, 2 players)
BB checks, yourface bets, BB calls.

Results:
Final pot: 9BB
yourface shows 9H 2H 
BB shows 3C 7C 

seemed like a good river card to follow up on, one where he may fold a better high card

jba · #2 09-23-2007, 09:29 PM

doesnt seem bad. also -35bb in 45 hands isn't that bad. try to keep the tilt away somehow. I try to keep a big stack, that helps me.

hand 2 you can prob fold the river but I like playing sd poker this early too
hand 9 never ever ever folding out a better hand here. esp after he just folded in a big pot
hand 10 just fold the turn. if he has the balls to semibuff the turn you'll get his money back soon.
hand 12 turn cap is ok, river c/r maybe better
hand 16 ya i dunno why people donk into a capper. he is pretty dumb.
hand 25 nice, also you're more likely to see what he peels flop with. which is obv very wide
hand 27 ya not much you can do here. three wheel cards make it more likely that a hi is going to showdown which is why he stopped betting and you cant stab.
hand 28 good no raise
hand 35 i bet with your hand but prob not something like j high

sweetjazz · #3 09-24-2007, 03:34 AM

Hand 2 - bad flop peel

Hand 7 - I usually bet this flop; you should be happy to take the pot down here.

Hand 8 - well played

Hand 9 - river bet is bad, A high is never folding

Hand 10 - bet/fold turn; I have called down in this spot a lot (usually when I'm running bad and can't hit the board no matter what I'm dealt) and it's a big money loser for me

Hand 12 - check/raise flop; primary reason is to induce spew and hopefully be able to cap the flop when you crush his range

Hand 14 - bad flop peel; even if you improve on the turn to the best hand you're vulnerable to a big redraw

Hand 16 - well played

Hand 17 - ugly spot, I probably play it the same though turn call is thin and river call is probably wrong (but maybe not against this opp)

Hand 18 - well played

Hand 21 - flop peel is thin

Hand 24 - like how you played it, only questionable street imho is river (check/call, bet/call, bet/fold all plausible lines)

Hand 25 - very well played, great spot to induce

Hand 26 - well played postflop, I think preflop is questionable given this opponent's overaggression. I'd rather see the flop and reassess as KTo isn't that strong. (It's close, I would 3bet KTs as you did earlier.)

Hand 27 - well played, I don't think a bluff is a good idea, I think QJ would have shown down against one bet and only maybe would have folded if you fired turn and river. Just not worth it.

Hand 28 - well played

Hand 31 - I've done similar, but you should check river and fold if you get check/raised (but against this opp both decisions are much closer than normal)

Hand 34 - fold turn, the 2 was a bad card for you, you have only 4 outs a lot here; also against this guy i'd often check/call flop intending to check/fold turn UI (check/raising a 4, 5 or 6); you're not gonna beat this guy by trying to steal small pots, you're gonna get him by valuebetting when you do hit.

Hand 35 - fine, usually check/fold against him though, wait until you've folded a few times before stabbing, he's simply going to peel and make dumb bluffs and calldowns too often (plus you want to encourage him to limp in on the button and "steal" the pot on the flop -- as his stolen flop is worth much less to him than you're seeing the flop for free in the big blind is worth to you)

Hand 36 - I might raise the flop for value, but this is a nice spot for a calldown. It's going to be hard to value bet the later streets as overcards hit and when you're behind you only have 2 outs.

Hand 39 - good calldown

Hand 41 - don't 3-bet PF against this guy, he's taking Ax and Kx to showdown way too much that you end up spewing when you miss; call preflop and assess how well the flop hits your hand

Hand 45 - fold preflop, fold flop, turn semibluff is probably bad against this guy (I doubt he would have folded Ks Ts at any point in the hand) and river is desperation at that point.

Overall, I think you played better than him, but I don't think you adjusted well to him. You should have kept the pots smaller preflop a couple of times (KTo, QJo) and avoided spewing. The way you beat this guy is you just wait for hands and slaughter him with value bets. You let him steal the small pots and encourage him to make bad bets and calls when your range consists of 100% value bets and 0% bluffs.

There is absolutely no way you can beat this type of player when you run bad, and the key is just avoid spewing and play a nitty fit/fold strategy. It's actually quite easy technically (just estimate equity / count odds and play appropriately) but it can be rather difficult psychologically. This is the type of player who you can rip 25-50 BBs off very quickly when you run hot.

I think your biggest mistake was spewing a bit with some weak hands (though you avoided doing this very much until the last hand), because you basically never have the odds to try to steal a pot from a guy like this who is going to showdown K high+ most of the time. You should play mostly straightforwardly and if you are going to mix in some slight spews, do it with weak made hands (but don't do it too often). For example, if I have T6o in the BB and the flop comes Kh Ts 5c, I will check/raise and normally if I am 3-bet I will shut down. Sometimes against this type of opponent I will cap the flop and lead most turns. Sometimes I'll look foolish when K5 pwns me, but often I get value from 65 or A9 (lol) or 33 (lolololol). The hand not to spew with on this board is J9. I'll often just check/call the flop with it and fold the turn unimproved against this player, whereas I would check/raise the flop and lead turn against a lot of other players.

yourface · #4 09-24-2007, 12:57 PM

hey sweetjazz, thanks for the comments

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Hand 2 - bad flop peel

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would you peel with the K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]?
I have the best hand here sometimes

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Hand 7 - I usually bet this flop; you should be happy to take the pot down here.

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I don't think any worse hands call a bet. I was hoping to induce a bluff on this ragged board

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Hand 12 - check/raise flop; primary reason is to induce spew and hopefully be able to cap the flop when you crush his range

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you don't think capping the flop is too much? he did cap preflop here for the first time

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Hand 31 - I've done similar, but you should check river and fold if you get check/raised (but against this opp both decisions are much closer than normal)

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I'm pretty sure there is value in a river bet vs this guy, he has been looking me up incredible light. probably should have folded to the c/r but his line didn't make any sense

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Hand 45 - fold preflop, fold flop, turn semibluff is probably bad against this guy (I doubt he would have folded Ks Ts at any point in the hand) and river is desperation at that point.

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preflop was a tilt play after running bad and folding the last 3 in a row - a good indicator to leave the table.
I thought the flop peel was good getting 7:1 with backdoor draws and possible live pair outs

danzasmack · #5 09-24-2007, 02:14 PM

******* Hand 45 ********
No, he doesn't bet/call anything here and then fold to a river bet IMO. In fact, I would have just called the turn.

******* Hand 36 ********
I will mix it up here as far as aggro goes. If i'm up against a dude who is 3-balling the BB a lot I'll just call in an effort to slow him down.

******* Hand 35 ********
I bet this turn about 1/4

******* Hand 34 ********
Meh is right. I'd be FOS if i didn't say i play this hand the exact same way sometimes, counting my 5/6 as pair outs. But who knows.

******* Hand 31 ********
I check this river 100% unless I think Qhi calls but give him any reasonable hand and you'll see that you either missed a bet vs. 22 like 1/200 or it's just a BS hand.

******* Hand 25 ********
100% standard for me.

******* Hand 24 ********
Also standard for me.

******* Hand 17 ********
c/c turn, c/c river.

******* Hand 10 ********
The crux of this hand is your decision to bet the turn. You bet to get worse to call or fold out better (though this is irrelevant w/Ahi HU because nobody folds a pair.) I c/c here because he can make a bad raise with a hand like J9, but my c/c says "yah i'm not folding". I c/f this river.

******* Hand 9 ********
A hi folds that river about as often as he mislicks. I say that a lot and it means that he folds when he misclicks. I hope you don't fold Ahi there.

******* Hand 8 ********
Go to war on the turn. You're going to get c/r'd by a lot of hands on that flop. Call and raise the turn.

yourface · #6 09-24-2007, 03:52 PM

hand 31 can't he have an ace after he checks? he's been aggro so I didn't think he'd have a pair

c/c turn in hands 10 and 17 makes sense to me

danzasmack · #7 09-24-2007, 04:13 PM

Based on his PF i would say he is a lot more likely to have 3-bet you with an ace.

sweetjazz · #8 09-24-2007, 06:58 PM

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Hand 2 - bad flop peel

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would you peel with the K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]?
I have the best hand here sometimes

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With the Kh, I think it's an okay peel, pretty thin (so folding is fine too imho). The problem with sometimes having the best hand is that it's just too expensive to find out those you do, because you end up paying off a lot of rivers when you're beat so often (like this one).

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Hand 7 - I usually bet this flop; you should be happy to take the pot down here.

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I don't think any worse hands call a bet. I was hoping to induce a bluff on this ragged board

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I don't think your hand is strong enough to be looking to induce bluffs. I think you should be leading flopped pairs; you're not committed to going to showdown with bottom pair here. (Though against this opponent, I'd be showing down frequently.)

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Hand 12 - check/raise flop; primary reason is to induce spew and hopefully be able to cap the flop when you crush his range

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you don't think capping the flop is too much? he did cap preflop here for the first time

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Yeah, I missed the preflop cap. I'd still check raise flop and against this guy capping flop is close.

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Hand 31 - I've done similar, but you should check river and fold if you get check/raised (but against this opp both decisions are much closer than normal)

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I'm pretty sure there is value in a river bet vs this guy, he has been looking me up incredible light. probably should have folded to the c/r but his line didn't make any sense

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Yeah, if the bet on this river is ever right, it's against this type of opponent. Still, it's thin because he'll show up with a random hand like 87 or K6 (or K3 lol) or a c/c hand like 94 often enough that I think you should check behind a lot. The river c/r is so weird I don't blame you for paying off; it's a really stupid bluff line but this opp does some stupid things.

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Hand 45 - fold preflop, fold flop, turn semibluff is probably bad against this guy (I doubt he would have folded Ks Ts at any point in the hand) and river is desperation at that point.

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preflop was a tilt play after running bad and folding the last 3 in a row - a good indicator to leave the table.
I thought the flop peel was good getting 7:1 with backdoor draws and possible live pair outs

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Your backdoor draws are pretty bad and you're vulnerable to a lot of redraws. Even if you hit your 9 or 2 on the turn and your hand is best, you usually have to dodge 6 - 10 cards plus you always pay off the river when you're beat. I feel pretty strongly that these peels are pretty bad in general unless you're getting free cards on the turn frequently and that's just not the case in the 5/10 HU games I play in. (On the contrary, I may have just called flop after a preflop 3bet from my opp and then raised the turn 3 straight times against him, but my typical opponent will keep 3betting preflop with weak hands and keep leading into me flop and turn regardless of what falls.) Also, this guy doesn't seem that out of line with his 3bets preflop, so I'd expect his range to be mostly pairs, aces and broadway cards. A lot of good players disagree and peel more liberally than I do, but I keep making these folds because (1) I think they are neutral or EV+ in a vacuum and (2) it keeps me from doing stupid very EV- things on later streets (*cough, cough* your turn play).*

* Which is not to say I haven't made such tilt/frustration plays before, only that I would be likely to make significantly more of them if I lowered my flop peeling standards more.

** Also, I like danza's suggestions about c/c turn in hands 10 and 17 against this specific opponent only. Otherwise, I think betting is better even if opponents only fold worse and call or raise with better.

HOWMANY · #9 09-24-2007, 09:46 PM

River call in Qc6c hand seems pretty bad. I'd probably raise turn often in the 6h3h hand where he had you destroyed with Aces.

gehrig · #10 09-25-2007, 06:36 AM

fold to river 3bet in hand 4

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