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Old 12-01-2007, 07:36 PM
fretelöo fretelöo is offline
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Default Re: Trouble with pocket pairs

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I think I have the best hand

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Great job on not even spending the time for the . at the end of the sentence. And you'll have to do a bit better than that. If you think oyu have the best hand on a KJJ2 board, you're most definitely still gonna have the best hand on a KJJ25 board because villain will very unlikely have called two streets with A5.

So try again. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:37 PM
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Sorry, didn't mean to offend you.
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:41 PM
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Sorry, didn't mean to offend you.

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I'm not offended - I just want you to spend some time on actually thinking about what you're trying your actions to achieve. What's the reason for the flop bet, the turn bet and why do you check the river? If you'Re confident that your turn bet is for value - what changes on the river?

Edit: And while we'Re at it: What's this talk about "drawish"ness about with regards to the first hand? Ever seen a dryer board than JJ2? How often does your opponent have a FD and what's he likely gonna do with it?
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:49 PM
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I guess I wanted to induce a bluff on the river. JJ2r it is not, it is a JJ2 two tone board, which loose types just love to peel & fold the turn ui...fwiw
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:56 PM
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Ooops, you edited your post after I replied.

Regarding how often he has a fd, I wouldn't know. Any advice?
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Old 12-01-2007, 07:59 PM
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Default Re: Trouble with pocket pairs

hand 1 is fine with me as you played it

hand 2 is a b/f turn imo
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Old 12-01-2007, 08:01 PM
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BBB - what is a feasible alternative line for hand 1?
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:26 PM
Mr.Busto Mr.Busto is offline
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Default Re: Trouble with pocket pairs

really set mining is key with 88-22 in MSLHE
people never fold anything that beats you here.
just drop it.
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:40 PM
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Hand 1. I would consider donking the flop (against passives), c/raising against passives and check folding against looser aggressive players.

Turn- Bet again

River- I don't mind the c/c to induce a bet off a busted draw or A high

Hand 2. Bet fold the turn
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Old 12-01-2007, 09:43 PM
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really set mining is key with 88-22 in MSLHE
people never fold anything that beats you here.
just drop it.

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That's bull. Sorry. The key is not how often they're folding, the key is how often they're bluffing.
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