AP, rigged, etc. #8981.4 - the plot thickens

[AaronL]

someone pointed out yesterday,when I posted traffic statistics, that there was variance based on the days of the week... looks like they took another hit yesterday (using last three Sundays from pokersitescout)


Oct 7 @ 7:31 PM 2447
Oct 14 @ 7:39 PM 2352
Oct 21 @ 7:50 PM 2190

[AaronL]

also interested is ultimatebet's traffic hit 3000 both the last two sundays... a total it hasn't hit any other day in the posted results (going back to Jul. 23rd) I wonder how many players transfered rolls over to ultimate from ap...

[SpaceMonkey13]

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also interested is ultimatebet's traffic hit 3000 both the last two sundays... a total it hasn't hit any other day in the posted results (going back to Jul. 23rd) I wonder how many players transfered rolls over to ultimate from ap...

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I wonder how the BBJ is affecting traffic numbers? People flocked to the micro limit tables in AP when the BBJ went over 500k. I see UB is just under that now (first time I've seen it that high, although I haven't been paying much attention).

[whangarei]

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someone pointed out yesterday,when I posted traffic statistics, that there was variance based on the days of the week... looks like they took another hit yesterday (using last three Sundays from pokersitescout)


Oct 7 @ 7:31 PM 2447
Oct 14 @ 7:39 PM 2352
Oct 21 @ 7:50 PM 2190

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Can we get this cross-referenced with numbers for Stars and FT to see if there is a drop in users relative to the other sites? Thx.

[Josem]

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Can we get this cross-referenced with numbers for Stars and FT to see if there is a drop in users relative to the other sites? Thx.

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Mate,

here are the details you seek

[ur2barredout]

Apefish here are 3 tournament IDs that I was refunded for. Im certain of the first two and the third is one of the 150k unknowns.
1871149-75k gtd that Steamroller luckboxed to victory
1873059-Payup again gets lucky to win 100k gtd
1871011-

[Zorglub]

I emailed pokerstars asking why they kept quiet and if they had taken steps to make sure it couldn't happen at their site, the answer sounds convincing and reassuring:

We are of course aware of the discussion online about Absolute Poker. We
have no more information about the situation than you do; we can only read
the threads posted online. Absolute Poker is not affiliated with PokerStars
in any way, and we do not use the same software. It would be inappropriate
for us to comment on this situation.

However, we recognize that the online discussion may make some people
generally doubt the security of other online poker sites. PokerStars'
software was developed under strict security controls. Here are some facts
about the PokerStars software and its development.

> In the early days of software development, the concept of having a program
that could view hole cards live in order to help testing was discussed. It
was explicitly decided against that idea, specifically to avoid any
potential problems like the one that is being discussed in the forums. That
decision stands, and no such software has ever been developed in PokerStars
software to view hole cards live in real time.

> PokerStars does record all of the hole cards in all real money hands. This
is an important tool to help us investigate fraud and collusion. However
this information is not accessible to anyone until after the conclusion of
the hand; it is not transmitted to our database until all action is
completed and the pot has been awarded.

> To be clear: Nobody at PokerStars can see or know the hole cards of any
hand in progress. Nobody in senior management, none of the software
developers, no support representatives. Nobody at all.

> All software updates are reviewed by several people before being deployed.
All sensitive changes are also personally reviewed by the chief software
architect to help ensure they are stable and secure.

> In our company history of more than six years, we have had no indication
of any breach that would allow anyone to see the hole cards of other players.

> We are aware that there are some programs that claim to make it possible
to see other players' cards. We have investigated many of these programs,
and have not found any that do what they claim to do. Some of them are
actually malware, programs that compromise the security of whoever installs
the software. But mostly they are simply scams; attempts to steal money
from people who believe incorrectly that they will get a competitive edge.
In truth, they do not compromise PokerStars security.

> We have a large team of Poker Specialists in our Support Team who review
all suspicious situations and escalate to the Game Security team if they
find anything, which in turn will escalate to the senior management team if
any serious problems are found.

The security and integrity of our games is of paramount importance to
PokerStars. I hope that I have been able to alleviate your concerns.

Please let us know if you have any more questions or concerns.

[TookURCookie]

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Apefish here are 3 tournament IDs that I was refunded for. Im certain of the first two and the third is one of the 150k unknowns.
1871149-75k gtd that Steamroller luckboxed to victory
1873059-Payup again gets lucky to win 100k gtd
1871011-

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http://www.bluffmagazine.com/thepoke...asp?tid=390920

just woke up and started skimming. Anyone see or look into this?

[teddyFBI]

[El_Hombre_Grande]

I understand the need for clarity that some of you who are far more programming literate than I will ever be seem to be be focusing on. And I respect that when you look at this from certain angles and degrees of geekdom, Superuser may not as accurate as some other term you might choose.

But I respectfully submit that it is an entirely accurate name for an an account of a player that sits across from you at a virtual poker table and knows your hole cards.
And that the what matters, not the logistics of how the security breach was accomplished. At least, if our goal is to help the general poker playing public understand the situation.