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Old 08-27-2007, 02:04 AM
Maulik Maulik is offline
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Default it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

the stack-sizes are awkward, how do I avoid?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker Hand History Converter)

SB: $426.40
BB: $233.15
Hero (UTG): $197.00
CO: $189.65
BTN: $284.15

Reads: <font color="blue">none, c/r turn on the assumption he bets too much</font>

Preflop: Hero is dealt T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $7.00</font>, CO calls $7.00, 3 folds

Flop: ($17) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $17.00</font>, CO calls $17.00

Turn: ($51) 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">CO bets $21.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $78.00</font>, CO calls $57.00

River: ($207) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets all-in for $95.00</font>, CO calls all-in for $87.65
Uncalled bet of $7.35 returned to Hero

Pot Size: $382.30 ($3 Rake)
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:10 AM
thedustbustr thedustbustr is offline
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

er, think about the cr before you do it? and decide to lead instead?

don't like the flop pot here either, way more likely to fold worse than an ace, it focuses his range on hands better than yours.
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

his flop calling range on this board is wide
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:01 PM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

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er, think about the cr before you do it? and decide to lead instead?

don't like the flop pot here either, way more likely to fold worse than an ace, it focuses his range on hands better than yours.

[/ QUOTE ]his flop calling range on this board is wide

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even so, it would be even wider if you bet less, and even if it isn't, it really makes a big difference in terms of stack awkwardness on the river, no matter how you play it.

the stacks are pretty perfect for a bet flop 2/3, bet turn 2/3, c/f river, or some variant line that gets two 2/3 bets in and leaves plenty of room to not commit.
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Old 08-27-2007, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

why are you checking the river to fold it?
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:15 AM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

I don't C-Bet here OOP, because you got a RIO flop. The c/r on the turn is even worse, because of RIO. Try to reach a cheap showdown, if that's not possible, get away from this hand whenever it's too expensive.
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:17 AM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

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I don't C-Bet here OOP, because you got a RIO flop. The c/r on the turn is even worse, because of RIO. Try to reach a cheap showdown, if that's not possible, get away from this hand whenever it's too expensive.

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i think this should be a cbet every time most likely. turn c/r isnt very good though. probably just lead turn. we arent worried about getting away from it right now, we are trying to extract value
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:19 AM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

RIO?

This line seems to be really good against players who play draws too aggressively
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Old 08-27-2007, 02:32 AM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

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RIO?

This line seems to be really good against players who play draws too aggressively

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if you put him on a draw then c/c turn c/c a dry river right? c/r just risks too much - if he has a real hand you're toast.

i'm in the bet turn camp though most of the time.
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Old 08-27-2007, 03:13 AM
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Default Re: it is a mess, and i did create it; tpmk

i think after the turn,

c/c river &gt;&gt; shove
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