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Old 11-08-2007, 05:21 PM
Little John Little John is offline
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Default $60 L3 river flush vs biggest nit in world on paired board

villian is bouk87. he is a super NIT at this level.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

Hero (t1450)
MP2 (t1310)
MP3 (t1350)
CO (t1935)
Button (t1685)
SB (t1500)
BB (t1330)
UTG (t1470)
UTG+1 (t1470)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, MP2 calls t150, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>.

Flop: (t375) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Turn: (t375) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t150</font>, Hero calls t150.

River: (t675) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t1150 (All-In)</font>
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:48 PM
kleath kleath is offline
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Default Re: $60 L3 river flush vs biggest nit in world on paired board

Flop I dont do this normally but I think I like it, whats your plan if he bets flop, and if you c/c what do you do on 2h turn?

Turn I like, Im inclined to think we arent doing that well vs his range here

River I dont like the shove, I dont think your getting much value from boku esp when it looks like a flush, just bet 450 or something.
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: $60 L3 river flush vs biggest nit in world on paired board

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Flop I dont do this normally but I think I like it, whats your plan if he bets flop, and if you c/c what do you do on 2h turn?

Turn I like, Im inclined to think we arent doing that well vs his range here

River I dont like the shove, I dont think your getting much value from boku esp when it looks like a flush, just bet 450 or something.

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i would have check/called flop and check/folded turn.

i pushed the river and wanted to see AK which is a pretty big part of his preflop calling range. i was guessing his preflop range to be something like JJ+ AK.
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:00 PM
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Flop I dont do this normally but I think I like it, whats your plan if he bets flop, and if you c/c what do you do on 2h turn?

Turn I like, Im inclined to think we arent doing that well vs his range here

River I dont like the shove, I dont think your getting much value from boku esp when it looks like a flush, just bet 450 or something.

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i would have check/called flop and check/folded turn.

i pushed the river and wanted to see AK which is a pretty big part of his preflop calling range. i was guessing his preflop range to be something like JJ+ AK.

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Yeah I def like that first line.

River: My thing is I dont think he calls AK 100% of the time, since its basically a bluff catcher vs you, I dunno though standard bet isnt gonna get him to get out of line either, so I guess shove is ok cause even against boku we cant really check or b/f.
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: $60 L3 river flush vs biggest nit in world on paired board

What is he betting on the turn that you are ahead of?
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Old 11-08-2007, 06:13 PM
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Default Re: $60 L3 river flush vs biggest nit in world on paired board

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What is he betting on the turn that you are ahead of?

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I can see him firing one small bullet with TT/JJ after john checks twice, its not super likely but its still a part of his range.
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Old 11-09-2007, 11:14 AM
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Default Re: $60 L3 river flush vs biggest nit in world on paired board

I don't think he's going to pay you off on the river either. Smaller bet sounds better if any but I know the results.
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Old 11-09-2007, 12:46 PM
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Default Re: $60 L3 river flush vs biggest nit in world on paired board

I actually like the river shove John. I do think you're getting paid off by AK every time and I don't think you're getting money out of any worse hands by checking or making a smaller bet.
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Old 11-09-2007, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: $60 L3 river flush vs biggest nit in world on paired board

The fact that nobody thinks the flop or turn is bad and plays with Boku makes me think it's good. River is bad if you think he won't call with QQ and might fold AK, Crai is better imo.
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Old 11-09-2007, 03:09 PM
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Default Re: $60 L3 river flush vs biggest nit in world on paired board

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The fact that nobody thinks the flop or turn is bad and plays with Boku makes me think it's good. River is bad if you think he won't call with QQ and might fold AK, Crai is better imo.

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I dont think he bets much that we beat on the river when checked to.
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