NL 50: Am I crazy to fold a set of queens ?

[Gesangsverein]

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
6 players

Seat 2: villain ($59.45)
Seat 5: hero ($50)
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Pre-flop: (6 players) hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 raises to $2.75</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">hero raises to $7.5</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($15.75, 2 players)
hero checks, UTG+1 checks.

Turn: Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($15.75, 2 players)
hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG+1 bets $16</font>, hero folds.
Uncalled bets: $16 returned to UTG+1.

Results:
Final pot: $15.75
Do you have any ideas about this hand ? I thought about bet flop and push if raised...but I`m actually quite unsure how to handle this situation.

[stonescar]

Fix the converter...

Why are you not betting this flop?
You 3-bet preflop and represent a big pair/AK, this flop looks more dangerous to him than it does to you. He could have a lot of holdings, including 22-99 and SCs. He might have AK or AQ here, but with any other hands than AQ he has to worry about a set.

You made a difficult situation on turn by not betting flop, so I don't think I manage to fold here. I would probably shove it as you are still ahead of a good part of his range, and you have outs vs the aces.

[fingersmith]

Definitely a scary flop, but if you 3bet preflop, I think you have to take a shot at it. With 9.5 outs I wouldn't feel terrible about reraising all-in if you get minraised. Your stack size means you wouldn't have that much fold equity, but it would still be a tough decision for Villain. If he has AQ oh well.

Edit: as played, I'd probably push to his turn raise and puke. He probably has the A, but there are times when he won't, and you can still fill up on the river.

[kayfish77]

the advice given above me is horrible. dont push over his raise. cbet the flop. as played instamuck the turn.

[fingersmith]

kay, villains range includes about a bazillion hands that we beat. More importantly, villain CHECKED THE FLOP, and Hero has checked twice in a row, showing major weakness, so Villain is making this turn bet with ANY of those holdings, as well as others like KQ, KJ, JJ, TT, which we crush. Plus we have full house outs. Pushing is not "horrible"

[thac]

Reads would help. Betting the flop would help.


Fingersmith - KQ and KJ don't call that 3-bet preflop, nor do they bet the turn there. Nothing but an ace bets that turn, and if you think they do, you are sadly mistaken (disclaimer: if villain is a 85/45 retard, sure, other than that, nothing but an ace bets this turn).

[Pegasus]

Your pre flop reraise is way too small, make more like 10 to 12...

then lead flop 2/3 to 3/4 pot...

if called then you just made a set and have 10 outs to fill up or hit quads which youre about 4-1 to hit so if he bets turn and youre getting correct pot odds (don't forget implied odds either) you should call.

as played you dont have odds so it's a clear fold

[Bowlboy]

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Reads would help. Betting the flop would help.


Fingersmith - KQ and KJ don't call that 3-bet preflop, nor do they bet the turn there. Nothing but an ace bets that turn, and if you think they do, you are sadly mistaken (disclaimer: if villain is a 85/45 retard, sure, other than that, nothing but an ace bets this turn).

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Well, nothing but an ace or a boat bets that turn. But ya, villain would have to be a huge donk to bet without having the straight here.

[thac]

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Reads would help. Betting the flop would help.


Fingersmith - KQ and KJ don't call that 3-bet preflop, nor do they bet the turn there. Nothing but an ace bets that turn, and if you think they do, you are sadly mistaken (disclaimer: if villain is a 85/45 retard, sure, other than that, nothing but an ace bets this turn).

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Well, nothing but an ace or a boat bets that turn. But ya, villain would have to be a huge donk to bet without having the straight here.

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lol and how exactly do you plan on getting a boat on this board?

[ocdscale]

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cbet the flop. as played instamuck the turn.

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