Straight draw being raised by a lower 'made straight'

[trickyAAA]

Splawn darts,

Your points are well taken, and I understand why you have the point of view that you do. There is more than one way to approach a hand or a tury, so I am not saying that you are wrong, just that I would do it differently.

Also, I believe the hero only has 11BB here, not 20, or am I misreading? With 20BB maybe I change to your way of thinking, although, I still tend to be conservative with this type of hand in a turny.

Seat 1 is the problem here. I am not worried about seat three except for the fact that I know he is ready to put his chips on the table, so expect re-raising from him. I want to control the betting in this situation by checking and calling so that the players who are dying to get their chips on the table can only do so after I have made my hand.

If seat one had only 5 or 6k, I would jam the pot to see if he was ready to get all in, and hopefully take out two players with a smaller investment. In this case, I have to invest half my stack before I can take him out, and most of it is going in before I make my hand. If I lose the hand, I am left with only 5 bb.

When I raise on fourth, if seat one calls, he has put over a quarter of his stack in, has a little more than 4bb left and is pot committed. He is likely to want to get all his chips in as well. I am already resigned to calling this down to the river after fourth where I am getting a minimum of 6 to 1 on the pot, but that means at least two more big bets, or a quarter of my stack. So, the situation on fourth after I raise, in my view, is - I have invested about a quarter of my stack in this pot, and I have queen high at this point. I am definitely calling fifth and sixth so, I know I am going to invest another quarter of my stack in this pot. So hear I am with queen high, against a player who seems to want action, and half my stack is going in no matter what. Although the situtaion is largely +EV if this were a cash game, I have a big enough stack before the hand to wait for a better spot. There are several smaller stacks, who, when they go out, will move me up in the money.

Contrast this to not raising on fourth - after fourth I have put 2k in the pot, I still have 20k left. I get my card on fourth, check, seat three bets 2k and seat one and i call. Now I have 4k in the pot, 18k in my stack. If i miss fifth and have to see sixth, I am sitting with 14k left as long as I just check and call. I have saved myself several bets along the way. Once I hit my card, the raising starts, and I decide when we get all the chips in instead of letting the other player have some say in that decision.

Anyway, this is my thinking. I am interested in hearing your thoughts about my strategy.