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Old 10-19-2007, 07:41 AM
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Default (Stars $162) Maximize value w/ top two pair?

Hand from Stars $100K nightly. No particular read on the villain other than he hadn't gotten out of line. What line do I take here? I'm assuming I have the best hand, so I'm willing to build a big pot and go bust against AA, QQ, or 66.

Poker Stars, $150 + $12 NL Hold'em Tournament, 50/100 Blinds, 9 Players
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SB: 5,965
BB: 1,195
UTG: 3,045
UTG+1: 5,625
UTG+2: 3,265
MP1: 2,130
Hero (MP2): 4,890
CO: 5,070
BTN: 7,843

Pre-Flop: (150) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Q dealt to Hero (MP2)
UTG folds, <font color="red">UTG+1 raises to 300</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls 300, 4 folds

Flop: (750) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
UTG+1 bets 500, Hero ??
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Old 10-19-2007, 07:58 AM
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Default Re: (Stars $162) Maximize value w/ top two pair?

I think if you just call he'll shut down w/ most hands that can't call a flop raise anyways, so I like raising the flop to get most value from AK, and maybe AJ.

If you just call and raise a safe turn, villain might be able to get away from AK which is something we don't want obv. However, if you decide to just call the flop, I think we can rep AJ-AT or a FD and in that case I think you'll have to just call the turn as well and wait until the river to jam. There are cards that could peel off though that will kill any potential action you could've got on the flop though, so yeah I like a flop raise in this spot.
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Old 10-19-2007, 09:46 AM
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Default Re: (Stars $162) Maximize value w/ top two pair?

call flop. Raise turn if its a non-spade.
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:51 PM
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Default Re: (Stars $162) Maximize value w/ top two pair?

Call. Raising the flop folds out tons of hands, and gets called by exactly one that you're beating unless villain is the rare donk that thinks Ax is the nuts. Our goal here is to allow worse hands to keep putting money in, and the way to do that is to call.
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Old 10-19-2007, 04:56 PM
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Default Re: (Stars $162) Maximize value w/ top two pair?

def raise. like 1500 or something. AK is not folding, and if he's a donk AJ and AT probably aren't either. also he might shove a fl draw.
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:36 PM
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Default Re: (Stars $162) Maximize value w/ top two pair?

Raising is definitely best in a vacuum IMO. What's not checking to us on the turn UI?

However, with specific dynamics, anything from a call through a minraise to a shove can be justified.
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: (Stars $162) Maximize value w/ top two pair?

mmm i like calling
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Old 10-19-2007, 05:57 PM
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Old 10-19-2007, 06:03 PM
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induce a 2 barrel putting you on a draw, and because his range for stacking off here is unreal tight espec if he hasn't gotten out of line yet.
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Old 10-19-2007, 06:15 PM
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Default Re: (Stars $162) Maximize value w/ top two pair?

Good answer but how wide is his range for double-barrelling into someone who has flatted an utg raise and flop lead?
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