Play for 2nd or play to win?

[fluorescenthippo]

very easy shove against somewhat good players. if they are both bad i guess limping is okay but id never do it

[fluorescenthippo]

i also think most people in this thread are overvaluing knocking out 3rd and undervaluing picking up 600 chips

[SlackerMcFly]

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i also think most people in this thread are overvaluing knocking out 3rd and undervaluing picking up 600 chips

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There is so little value in the 600 chips here that winning the hand there shouldn't be a goal. Limping 200 to see a flop or see SB shove his remaining 400 in is worth the 10% or your stack.

If BB shoves, so be it. You don't have to call, and shorty is already AI (or should be).

Getting H/U on this hand is your goal, not winning chips.

[JBizzle104]

easiest limp ever.....

[Amerzel]

I limp here too and hope it gets checked down where I have the winner.

[fluorescenthippo]

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i also think most people in this thread are overvaluing knocking out 3rd and undervaluing picking up 600 chips

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There is so little value in the 600 chips here that winning the hand there shouldn't be a goal. Limping 200 to see a flop or see SB shove his remaining 400 in is worth the 10% or your stack.

If BB shoves, so be it. You don't have to call, and shorty is already AI (or should be).

Getting H/U on this hand is your goal, not winning chips.

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using sngwiz, and with SB calling 100% i cant get this to be worse than a +.75% edge no matter what BB calls with. with SB on 74% and BB call1% at 28% i cant get it worse than +.82% no matter what call2% is.

so yea its a matter of if limping is better than pushing. but i dont think you can pass up an edge of almost 1%, especially since this isnt sngpt and overcalls are already factored in. unless im using sngwiz wrong it looks like a push

[MrTynKyn]

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i also think most people in this thread are overvaluing knocking out 3rd and undervaluing picking up 600 chips

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There is so little value in the 600 chips here that winning the hand there shouldn't be a goal. Limping 200 to see a flop or see SB shove his remaining 400 in is worth the 10% or your stack.

If BB shoves, so be it. You don't have to call, and shorty is already AI (or should be).

Getting H/U on this hand is your goal, not winning chips.

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using sngwiz, and with SB calling 100% i cant get this to be worse than a +.75% edge no matter what BB calls with. with SB on 74% and BB call1% at 28% i cant get it worse than +.82% no matter what call2% is.

so yea its a matter of if limping is better than pushing. but i dont think you can pass up an edge of almost 1%, especially since this isnt sngpt and overcalls are already factored in. unless im using sngwiz wrong it looks like a push

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wherever I set on sngwiz , it tells me fold.
What numbers are you setting?

[fluorescenthippo]

uh.. the numbers i said i set...


like SB call1% on 75%, BB call1% on 30% and call2% on 25% gives you a +.8% push, right?

[MrTynKyn]

I didnt set chip equity mode.
SB 100%
BB 100%

Is a push , I think Im doing something wrong. It has not sense

[fluorescenthippo]

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I didnt set chip equity mode.
SB 100%
BB 100%

Is a push , I think Im doing something wrong. It has not sense

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you shouldnt be in chip equity mode i dont think. i dont know how to change the stuff im just in the default. which is $EV not cEV im assuming