IntelliPoker -Pokerstars plans to educate the fish?

[Bobo Fett]

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I am not against the poker schools under the ".nets," but it should be illegal to offer strategy stuffs (some detailed) on the .com sites, like starting hands by position, if it's a raised pot or not, and how to play post-flop.

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Illegal??? You'd like lawmakers to lesgislate what it can tell players? I'm sure they'll be jumping all over this idea.

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FullTilt even sends stuff like that on emails. It's next to the same thing as going to any casino and there being those on papers or so, like a Blackjack basic strategy (I think some sites have those too offered), or even the dealer telling what hands to play and recommends folding post-flop in a variety of situations.

It's supposed to be a neutral place and not some place where one's competition is improved; it goes under the name "collusion." If the casino itself wants to collude against itself (e.g. Blackjack), that's its own business, but it has no moral right to collude with the worse players, educate our competition;

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I didn't need the dictionary to tell me just how wrong you were, but I thought I'd paste this here for you:

col·lu·sion - [kuh-loo-zhuhn] –noun

1. a secret agreement, esp. for fraudulent or treacherous purposes; conspiracy: Some of his employees were acting in collusion to rob him.

2. Law. a secret understanding between two or more persons to gain something illegally, to defraud another of his or her rights, or to appear as adversaries though in agreement: collusion of husband and wife to obtain a divorce.

I must be confused. It doesn't seem that Poker Stars is doing this secretly. It must be that Poker Stars has identified the fish, and ONLY lets them have this information, then? They won't allow you to have it as well?

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it took me some years to find and learn stuff that's offered on some .com sites - that's stealing time, money and energy from me. Under better laws I would win the case against them and get compensations.

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Wait...I thought Poker Stars was paying people to write and provide poker advice to their players. You mean that instead they have stolen all of your own original material on the subject? Bastards! Well, since it's all of your material they are using, you should be able to sue them...contact a lawyer!

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Offline (and online) casinos may have poker books that they sell on their possible stores; that's not as bad but should also not be done. As an argument I could, when playing poker there, sometimes offer basic strategy cards for e.g. Blackjack players, and there's nothing the casino can do about it (though they could kick me out but the law will protect me, though it's not what usually is done, but one should just go to the police as all one did was offering basic strategy cards for some other fellow players). Stuff like that is usually the only way to do anything about things that are against my rights when the laws won't protect me. There's maybe nothing I can do about the online casinos here.

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Huh?

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p.s. I would like to see the site rake tables also showing the average rake per hour, or so, one is paying playing this or that limit. But the only sites that are a sort of doing that are the ones offering more or less rakefree games. Now, what kind of a business is not saying how much it costs for its customers to play there? That's the single most important information that should be posted on their sites. Not posting it is illegal, as it's stealing, though not under the current laws.

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I'd like to know what site this is that doesn't provide all of their rake structure for you to view on their website.

[DWarrior]

Tuff_fish has been a CR member for how long? How is his game? No school in the world will help you if you're unwilling to learn, and most fish have the attitude that they know everything, or close to everything, and are just unlucky.

My initial reaction was that this is bad, but I quickly realized this can only be good. I think it might even be good in the battle to show poker is a game of skill.

[HedonismBot]

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Wheres that dude that started a thread bitching about someone offering poker book advice at a table, im sure me and him will get along.

TBH, im very surprised that people are not totally agaisnt the fish having learning material right in front of their face for free. Even if most dont use it, if it only helps a small number get good, thats a small number that are no longer fish...

continue flaming....

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This is definitely a valid concern at lower limits but for higher limit players who view almost everyone as a fish this is just going to bring them more fish, so its a good thing.

[Josem]

out of curiosity, what do people who are unhappy include in their email to stars?

Does it go something like this?

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Dear PokerStars,

I think you should keep your customers ignorant.

I think that if your customers are ignorant of poker strategy, I will be able to make more money from then.

regards,
Moron536

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How can anyone possibly claim that PokerStars have an obligation to you to maintain ignorance amongst their customer base?

Is this not one of the most silly things posted here in the last few hours?

[1p0kerboy]

What languages will IntelliPoker™ offer?

German. Other languages will follow as soon as possible.

[1p0kerboy]

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How can anyone possibly claim that PokerStars have an obligation to you to maintain ignorance amongst their customer base?


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They don't have an obligation to us, but it is in THEIR best interest.

[Josem]

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They don't have an obligation to us, but it is in THEIR best interest.

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how?

[anduril]

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They don't have an obligation to us, but it is in THEIR best interest.

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how?

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Because if the fish all go from losers to break even players, they play longer and pay more rake.

[William]

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They don't have an obligation to us, but it is in THEIR best interest.

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how?

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WOW, A poster with ZERO IQ. Congrats...

[Josem]

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They don't have an obligation to us, but it is in THEIR best interest.

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how?

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Because if the fish all go from losers to break even players, they play longer and pay more rake.

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I don't get how this is bad for PokerStars.