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Old 11-19-2007, 05:50 PM
RikkiDee RikkiDee is offline
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1. There are already threads about this.

2. If you think that its just Harrison missing you are crazy. The Colts have also played without their #3WR Gonzalez and didn't have Dallas Clark for the the SD game (the game that is skewing this statical sample horribly).

3. Manning is playing behind a patchwork O-line. I don't pay very close attention to the Pats line, but I doubt very seriously that they have had anything like this rash of injuries.
In the SD game the Colts had a guy at LT that was on the practice squad the week before. I seriously doubt that has ever happened before in the NFL. Guys don't come off the practice squad and protect a QBs blindside, it usually another line man moving over but the Colts were down 3 O-linemen and out of options.

4. There is a huge difference between having shoddy WRs that you've been practicing with since camp and having shoddy WRs that just started getting reps with the first team.

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Quoted the whole post since it's all true, but the fact that it's taken weeks for someone else to mention #4 tilts the [censored] out of me. More people should besides Colts' fans should be mentioning this.

Cody

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did you know that moss didn't play preseason? not 1 game.

here are his stats from the first game brady and moss played together:
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REC YDS AVG LNG TD
9 183 20.3 51 1</pre><hr />

not everyone needs to play 3 years together to make it work
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Old 11-19-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: Manning stats without Harrison vs Brady

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1. There are already threads about this.

2. If you think that its just Harrison missing you are crazy. The Colts have also played without their #3WR Gonzalez and didn't have Dallas Clark for the the SD game (the game that is skewing this statical sample horribly).

3. Manning is playing behind a patchwork O-line. I don't pay very close attention to the Pats line, but I doubt very seriously that they have had anything like this rash of injuries.
In the SD game the Colts had a guy at LT that was on the practice squad the week before. I seriously doubt that has ever happened before in the NFL. Guys don't come off the practice squad and protect a QBs blindside, it usually another line man moving over but the Colts were down 3 O-linemen and out of options.

4. There is a huge difference between having shoddy WRs that you've been practicing with since camp and having shoddy WRs that just started getting reps with the first team.

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Quoted the whole post since it's all true, but the fact that it's taken weeks for someone else to mention #4 tilts the [censored] out of me. More people should besides Colts' fans should be mentioning this.

Cody

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did you know that moss didn't play preseason? not 1 game.

here are his stats from the first game brady and moss played together:
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REC YDS AVG LNG TD
9 183 20.3 51 1</pre><hr />

not everyone needs to play 3 years together to make it work

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you are a moron. no, not everyone needs 3 years together to make it work, but randy moss is the ultimate example of a receiver to whom you can just throw the ball up to. randall cunningham had a career revival with him.

so yes when one of the best QBs of all time and possibly the greatest WR of all time hook up, they just MIGHT be successful

on the other hand when you're playing with practice squad level players, it's all about timing because those guys aren't going to get open much.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:15 PM
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1. There are already threads about this.

2. If you think that its just Harrison missing you are crazy. The Colts have also played without their #3WR Gonzalez and didn't have Dallas Clark for the the SD game (the game that is skewing this statical sample horribly).

3. Manning is playing behind a patchwork O-line. I don't pay very close attention to the Pats line, but I doubt very seriously that they have had anything like this rash of injuries.
In the SD game the Colts had a guy at LT that was on the practice squad the week before. I seriously doubt that has ever happened before in the NFL. Guys don't come off the practice squad and protect a QBs blindside, it usually another line man moving over but the Colts were down 3 O-linemen and out of options.

4. There is a huge difference between having shoddy WRs that you've been practicing with since camp and having shoddy WRs that just started getting reps with the first team.

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Quoted the whole post since it's all true, but the fact that it's taken weeks for someone else to mention #4 tilts the [censored] out of me. More people should besides Colts' fans should be mentioning this.

Cody

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did you know that moss didn't play preseason? not 1 game.

here are his stats from the first game brady and moss played together:
<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>
REC YDS AVG LNG TD
9 183 20.3 51 1</pre><hr />

not everyone needs to play 3 years together to make it work

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you are a moron. no, not everyone needs 3 years together to make it work, but randy moss is the ultimate example of a receiver to whom you can just throw the ball up to. randall cunningham had a career revival with him.

so yes when one of the best QBs of all time and possibly the greatest WR of all time hook up, they just MIGHT be successful

on the other hand when you're playing with practice squad level players, it's all about timing because those guys aren't going to get open much.

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Yes Randy Moss did wonders in Oakland.........

the fact of the matter is, Manning is not as good as we were once led to believe as nfl fans. At first he appeared to be a great nfl qb, but that was only when he was surrounded by pro-bowl weapons. Now that he's even missing a couple pro bowlers, he's playing like garbage. And he still has Reggie Wayne, Addai, and Dallas Clark for the most part.

Unless he is surrounded by studs, Manning is mediocre at best.

it's actually pretty sad. I feel cheated as an nfl fan but it's up to me to point out the truth... and this is it.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:22 PM
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Congrats, PLO8FaceKilla. There have been a myriad of retard trolls in 2p2 history since I have been apart of this forum. You are the first I have ever put on ignore. For the sake of the rest of 2p2, I hope you get banned.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:28 PM
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Congrats, PLO8FaceKilla. There have been a myriad of retard trolls in 2p2 history since I have been apart of this forum. You are the first I have ever put on ignore. For the sake of the rest of 2p2, I hope you get banned.

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you too?

i put two other guys on ignore but have since removed them. i cannot imagine i will do that with this guy.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:29 PM
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the fact of the matter is, Manning is not as good as we were once led to believe as nfl fans. At first he appeared to be a great nfl qb, but that was only when he was surrounded by pro-bowl weapons. Now that he's even missing a couple pro bowlers, he's playing like garbage. And he still has Reggie Wayne, Addai, and Dallas Clark for the most part.

Unless he is surrounded by studs, Manning is mediocre at best.

it's actually pretty sad. I feel cheated as an nfl fan but it's up to me to point out the truth... and this is it.

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this is the funniest post of the day. apparently manning haters went from criticizing his "inability" to win a big game to simply calling him mediocre.

do you really think a mediocre qb could AVERAGE 4000+ yrds/season and almost 30 td/season for 10 seasons simply because he is surrounded by studs? troy aikman can be considered mediocre (though he was really just below average) on some sick stud teams, and the BEST season he had was 3445 yards passing and 23 TDs (w/ 14 INTs).
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:31 PM
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it's actually pretty sad. I feel cheated as an nfl fan but it's up to me to point out the truth... and this is it.

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yeah, I feel cheated when I get dealt aces. i lose with them like 20 percent of the time. [censored] phil helmuth told me it's the best possible hand.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:40 PM
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:41 PM
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Yes Randy Moss did wonders in Oakland.........

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he was being a little bitch and refusing to put forth effort for a team that had no chance. as someone else mentioned, if all else fails brady can just throw it up and moss will often catch it when in single coverage and will still retrieve it at an alarming rate when doubled (not to take anything away from brady).


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the fact of the matter is, Manning is not as good as we were once led to believe as nfl fans. At first he appeared to be a great nfl qb, but that was only when he was surrounded by pro-bowl weapons. Now that he's even missing a couple pro bowlers, he's playing like garbage. And he still has Reggie Wayne, Addai, and Dallas Clark for the most part.

Unless he is surrounded by studs, Manning is mediocre at best.

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omg life tilt.
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Old 11-19-2007, 06:43 PM
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