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Old 07-02-2007, 10:32 PM
vendbien vendbien is offline
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Whoever said Jack Effel is a standup guy doesn't really know him. He simply slithered his way into a position WAY over his head.

I met Jack in San Diego 2.5 years ago. He reminds me of a vulture of sorts. Sort of goofy and ugly, scavenging around and ending up with things that no one else really wanted. (girls, jobs, and barbers would all seem to fit in that category).

Now he has a job he can't do. Its not his fault he can't do it, he just doesn't have the skills. He tries to do things to give the WSOP the appearance of success. However, its just not working. Sort of like buying a homely chick fake boobs to try to make her seem more attractive. Um, just doesn't work.

Jack is great with paperwork. He sucks at people skills. He really knows very little about poker and poker players. He has no charisma. He is goofy looking.

Bring back Matt or Johnny. Or give the gig to Jimmy.

As long as Jack is in the drivers seat the WSOP will continue to be a cluster****.

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You are so dead on it's scary... to the point of making me now feel sorry for him. Cautionary tale here... be careful what you ask for, Jack. You just might get it.
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Old 07-03-2007, 01:08 AM
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Default Re: Fire Jack Effel Now!!!!

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Whoever said Jack Effel is a standup guy doesn't really know him. He simply slithered his way into a position WAY over his head.

I met Jack in San Diego 2.5 years ago. He reminds me of a vulture of sorts. Sort of goofy and ugly, scavenging around and ending up with things that no one else really wanted. (girls, jobs, and barbers would all seem to fit in that category).

Now he has a job he can't do. Its not his fault he can't do it, he just doesn't have the skills. He tries to do things to give the WSOP the appearance of success. However, its just not working. Sort of like buying a homely chick fake boobs to try to make her seem more attractive. Um, just doesn't work.

Jack is great with paperwork. He sucks at people skills. He really knows very little about poker and poker players. He has no charisma. He is goofy looking.

Bring back Matt or Johnny. Or give the gig to Jimmy.

As long as Jack is in the drivers seat the WSOP will continue to be a cluster****.

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You are so dead on it's scary... to the point of making me now feel sorry for him. Cautionary tale here... be careful what you ask for, Jack. You just might get it.

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Hi Vince
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Old 07-03-2007, 02:41 AM
JohnnyGroomsTD JohnnyGroomsTD is offline
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Hello all,
I have refrained from posting here lately, as it just adds fuel to the fire. I have read various complaints, issues, problems, stories, and other things here that i will neither comment on or speculate about.

What I will comment on is the endless trashing of a guy who always did a good job as my assistant and co-director. The negative commentary on Jack is frustrating to me. Having been in that position, and knowing the issues he is dealing with, I wish, just once, many of his detractors would get the opportunity to experience the pressures of that position for one day. Not a hard day, like four or five events going, day one, or day one of the main event. Just a normal day. Jack is by no means doing a perfect job, as no tournament director at the WSOP has ever done a perfect job. Managing a staff that size and being responsible for every mistake or problem is the hardest thing I have ever endured an any capacity. He will not receive credit for any positives, and will be scapegoated for every bad situation or decision that happens. I am sure ENE will read this and pass along a hello to Jack for me. He and I had a conversation a week ago and talked a little about the Series this year. My comment to him was "Heavy is the head that wears the crown." I echo Matt's comment that many don't understand the difficulty of that position, and I wish Jack and the WSOP staff well for the remaining events.

I do have one other thing to add. There was a post about the circumstances of the "release" of myself, Ken , and Jack. I do not remember it working out that way, and am shocked to learn that anyone other than an executive who still works at the WSOP was responsible for that decision, or that any employee below the executive level was privvy to a meeting that basically relieved the TD, the director of OPs for the WSOP, and the assistant TD of their duties. As for the decision on the 19 stacks, that was specifically and unequivically not a decision made by Ken Lambert. No dead stacks were left in play at all. Every stack not having a name assigned to it was removed by myself, Janis Sexton, or Jack Effel. The names of those players were kept on a list, along with table and seat numbers of no-shows picked up. I addressed this in my post on rgp 2 years ago. The only person that ever countermanded a decision I made was not Ken. He respected my opinion enough to let my decisions on operations stand. I was overruled on some occasions by a Harrah's executive. I also ate a $9,000 mistake by my staff, as per the same exec. So be it.

Please, stop the Jack-bashing.

Johnny Grooms
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Old 07-03-2007, 03:23 AM
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Johnny, dont' be such a stranger around these parts.

Randy
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Old 06-20-2007, 02:18 PM
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There is enough blame to go around but replacing Jack will not solve anything.

Someone smarter than I labeled Harrah's "The Wal-Mart of Casinos." That is so true and much like the real Wal-Mart, people will continue to bend over and take whatever the monolith gives them.

Players have whined about nearly everything related to the Series yet day after day, line up and pay into this mess and oh, BTW, continue to stop in the restaurants, bars and most important, stop in the actual casino on their way out the door.

Continue to patronize and this is what you will continue to get. Harrah's is a monolith. What has this token players advisory board accomplished in three years? More toilets?

Keep whining and you will keep getting lip service. If the money goes away then problems will truly be addressed. But, that ain't going to happen because there are too many players involved and too many of them will tolerate the abuse since they can go back home and tell their friends that they played in a World Series event.
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Old 06-20-2007, 03:25 PM
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Default Re: Fire Jack Effel Now!!!!

except Walmart competes with low prices...the same cannot be said of Harrah's
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Old 06-20-2007, 04:58 PM
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from the changes that were made, it seems pretty clear that Harrah's intended to shorten the final tables of the prelim events. That was the major change. The double stacks are generally to give the impression of a better structure early. To me, it is clear that Harrah's has a fairly good idea of what they are doing with the NL structures, and have chosen the structures to create shorter final tables in the prelim events. The question is, why?
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:12 PM
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Yeah, please don't insult wal-mart like that. Harrah's is more like a shopping mall jewelry store than a wal-mart - catering to the average citizen, but raping them in the process.

The Riverside in Laughlin : Wal Mart of Casinos.

Devo
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Old 06-20-2007, 05:18 PM
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The Riverside in Laughlin : Wal Mart of Casinos.

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Aw, come on, Bryan. Don't be so generous to my home cardroom. People might get the wrong impression that RS is a nice, decent, respectable place [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

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Old 07-01-2007, 03:47 PM
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Default Re: Fire Jack Effel Now!!!!

Let me give all of you folks the 'real skinny' on Effel and why he WILL be replaced at the end of the '07 WSOP.

THE TOP 10 REASONS JACK WILL NOT BE BACK.

10. His first WSOP experience was in 2005. He was brought in by Kenny Lambert Jr. who (like his father) has been summarily 'relieved' of all of his recent positions for reasons that a lot of people know but can't talk about. Jack Effel was Kenny's 'Bag Man' and the 'Dalmation' to Kenny's 'Clydesdale' Johnny Grooms. All of the above were summarily fired with 2 days remaining in the 2005 WSOP (although Grooms probably shouldn't have been - see 'guilt by association').
9. Of the three, Effel was the most hated and untalented (by far) because he was unbelievably defensive about his lack of qualifications for the job and offset that by being imperious and dogmatic about things he knew nothing about.
8. Effel has always walked into WSOP and Circuit Events AFTER they were already set-up and arranged (a 10-month process in the case of the WSOP), and he simply had to 'look' like he knew what he was doing, defer responsibility to higher-ups and pick up his monstrous envelopes and unreported tokes.
7. This year, he was in charge of setting up and arranging the WSOP (something he knew next to nothing about) and the resultant first 2 weeks of chaos showed his lack of understanding, foresight and administrative skills.
6. He is one of the most unlikeable people (especially at his relatively young age) in all of Poker.
5. He is NOT a multi-tasker as I learned on a daily basis in working with him for 2 1/2 years ( I was asked to be a senior staff member in 2007 and turned it down solely for the reason that I would not work with or for Jack Effel).
4. He gave Harrahs and the WSOP mucky-mucks a dog-n-pony story and show - using all of those corporate 'buzz words' that they love so much - extolling his qualifications and also smoozed all of the 'Pro Advisory' committee members so that they would give him their imprimatur.
3. Most of the staff members hate him (except for the idiots who wouldn't have a job unless someone like him was in charge - Jack likes to hire people less-qualified than himself so that they won't show him up).
2. The mucky-mucks don't even like him anymore and he WILL be the fall guy for any problems that cropped up...
... and last but not least, the Number One reason Jack Effel will not be back next year...
1. ... HE SUCKS BIG TIME.
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