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Old 08-24-2007, 04:52 PM
myKing myKing is offline
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Default Is this a good river raise?

I'm not sure if I have to call this three-bet or not either. Due to uncertainty I just called it. My villain here is a loose player with normal post flop aggression/play.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, BB calls.

Flop: (4.40 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls.

Turn: (3.20 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (5.20 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 11.20 BB
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Old 08-24-2007, 05:00 PM
KitCloudkicker KitCloudkicker is offline
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Default Re: Is this a good river raise?

im not sure what i hate more, the river raise or the river call after he 3 bets.
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Old 08-24-2007, 05:02 PM
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Default Re: Is this a good river raise?

:g:
Um, no that J is like the worst card in the deck but what do I know I play 0.25/0.5...

[Stox] Cap that [censored] for value and meta game and open muck to a call[/Stox]
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Old 08-24-2007, 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Is this a good river raise?

hehehe, i'm not quite ready to cap this for meta game [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

ok thanks for the answer. I figured I was ahead of a lot of 2pairs. so am I supposed to fear the K? The 8 seems unlikely given the flop *peel*.
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Old 08-24-2007, 05:27 PM
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Default Re: Is this a good river raise?

just call the river
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Old 08-24-2007, 05:28 PM
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Default Re: Is this a good river raise?

bbb,

can you tell me a bit about why not to raise with respect to beating villain's two pairs? i just haven't understood that yet, sorry if i'm dense.
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Old 08-24-2007, 05:31 PM
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Default Re: Is this a good river raise?

well if you can fold to a 3bet, raising is fine, but it seems unlikely that he's 3betting hands you beat on the river.
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Old 08-24-2007, 05:31 PM
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ok
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Old 08-24-2007, 06:11 PM
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Default Re: Is this a good river raise?

I flat call on the river, the re raise was not good and calling the 3 bet was worse. We all learn from these mistakes though, so good job with the post.
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Old 08-24-2007, 06:31 PM
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Default Re: Is this a good river raise?

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hehehe, i'm not quite ready to cap this for meta game [img]/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]

ok thanks for the answer. I figured I was ahead of a lot of 2pairs. so am I supposed to fear the K? The 8 seems unlikely given the flop *peel*.

[/ QUOTE ]

Well my guess is that you are ahead a ton on the river but that you wont be called by a lot of 2nd best hands and you will be raised by everything you are behind to with a hand that you really want to show down.
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