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Old 08-10-2007, 10:53 AM
MrWooster MrWooster is offline
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Default QQ faces river shove

Villain is 22/11 but not very aggressive (AF 0.7)

Doomed river card, what do you make of it?

I think we are seeing AJ+ here a lot... but I can't see him calling down all the way unless he had a draw as well, maybe AJ[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]+ ...


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Hero ($18.08)
Button ($8.68)
SB ($2.50)
BB ($10.22)
UTG ($12.15)
MP ($9.52)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $0.4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1.4</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls $1.

Flop: ($2.95) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.47</font>, UTG calls $1.47.

Turn: ($5.89) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2.94</font>, UTG calls $2.94.

River: ($11.77) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets $6.34 (All-In)</font>, Hero vomits and decides to ask 2p2 for wisdom
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:56 AM
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Default Re: QQ faces river shove

fold, i think he has A6 AT here lots unless villian has shown propensity to bluff.
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: QQ faces river shove

bet more on flop (drawy and you have, probably, best hand and is vulnerable to alot of cards).

watch what happens when you bet $2.50 on the flop: pot on turn becomes roughly $8, allowing you to put your opponent all in with roughly a potsized bet.
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Old 08-10-2007, 10:58 AM
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Default Re: QQ faces river shove

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fold, i think he has A6 AT here lots unless villian has shown propensity to bluff.

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I forgot about AT, but I don't think A6 raises pf here... and even AT UTG is strange for a 22/11
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:00 AM
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Default Re: QQ faces river shove

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bet more on flop (drawy and you have, probably, best hand and is vulnerable to alot of cards).

watch what happens when you bet $2.50 on the flop: pot on turn becomes roughly $8, allowing you to put your opponent all in with roughly a potsized bet.

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I really need to become more of a third level thinker, the reason I bet so little on the flop was because it was 3-bet PF, but I can see now that 2.50 on the flop would have made the hand much easier.
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:02 AM
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Default Re: QQ faces river shove

highly read dependent.. I think this is a set a lot or busted draw. I'm not sure if I agree with AT and I definitely don't agree with A6.
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Old 08-10-2007, 11:11 AM
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Default Re: QQ faces river shove

Bet more on flop and more on turn. On the flop you bet about half the pot, when I believe 2/3rds is better. On the turn you bet half the pot again, when closer to a PSB is better. Making bigger bets will definately change the way the hand is played.
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