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#1
11-06-2007, 05:12 PM
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100 rb. JJ as an overpair.
70 players left. 18 get money. Avg stack is about 14k, hero is top 3 in chips and has only shown down good hands.
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (7 handed) Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver) UTG (t34522) Hero (t40020) MP2 (t10860) CO (t5645) Button (t5055) SB (t15730) BB (t8000) Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J  , J . UTG raises to t1050, Hero calls t1050, 5 folds. Flop: (t2250) 9  , 6, 3 (2 players)UTG bets t1250, Hero raises to t3600</font>, UTG raises to t6700, Hero calls t3100. Turn: (t15650) 4 (2 players)UTG bets t9200, Hero folds. Final Pot: t15650 Good, bad, terrible? 
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#2
11-06-2007, 05:21 PM
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Re: 100 rb. JJ as an overpair.
I think the decision point in the hand is when he 3-bets the flop. With no read that's good enough for me to give UTG credit for a bigger pair. Fold to 3-bet on the flop, as played, fold.
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#4
11-06-2007, 08:28 PM
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Re: 100 rb. JJ as an overpair.
I dont know how you will call the 3b on the flop and then fold on the turn here. I mean this didnt change the board at all. Do you think he wont fire again on the turn when a meaningless card comes?
If I am calling the flop then I am at least calling (probably shoving) on the turn. However, if you have been tight and showing down good hands and no stats on pfr, I give ppl respect here and fold to the 3b pf
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#5
11-06-2007, 08:34 PM
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Re: 100 rb. JJ as an overpair.
I probably call the flop but would fold to the 3-bet if I raised.
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#6
11-06-2007, 10:02 PM
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Re: 100 rb. JJ as an overpair.
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I probably call the flop but would fold to the 3-bet if I raised. [/ QUOTE ] I agree 100%. When he 3 bet's you beat zero % of a good players range, and one hand in a spewy players range.
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#7
11-06-2007, 10:05 PM
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Re: 100 rb. JJ as an overpair.
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i call flop, fold / call and 2nd barrel depending on villian. [/ QUOTE ] This would be my line most of the time. If I do raise the flop I fold to the 3bet.
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#8
11-07-2007, 06:56 AM
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Re: 100 rb. JJ as an overpair.
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I dont know how you will call the 3b on the flop and then fold on the turn here. I mean this didnt change the board at all. Do you think he wont fire again on the turn when a meaningless card comes? [/ QUOTE ] The reason why I called his 3 bet on the flop was to see if he fires the turn. He's 3 bet size on the flop indicated extreme strength/extreme weakness (nothing in between) to me. So I thought he would slow down on the turn without the goods.
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