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Old 10-27-2007, 05:59 AM
Laetus Laetus is offline
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Default Re: AK 3 barrel deep stacked

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The flopbet is fine, the shove is nothing but terrible.

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Why bet into a empty side pot w/ nothing? Sure, if he has nothing we protect equity, but if he has something we just "lost" a PB.
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Old 10-27-2007, 06:02 AM
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Default Re: AK 3 barrel deep stacked

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The flopbet is fine, the shove is nothing but terrible.

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Why bet into a empty side pot w/ nothing? Sure, if he has nothing we protect equity, but if he has something we just "lost" a PB.

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We could probably get him to fold alot of onepair hands, at least with a secondbarrel.
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Old 10-27-2007, 06:07 AM
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Default Re: AK 3 barrel deep stacked

I don't like any street at all.
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Old 10-27-2007, 06:54 AM
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Default Re: AK 3 barrel deep stacked

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The flopbet is fine, the shove is nothing but terrible.

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Why bet into a empty side pot w/ nothing? Sure, if he has nothing we protect equity, but if he has something we just "lost" a PB.

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We could probably get him to fold alot of onepair hands, at least with a secondbarrel.

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I don't like a plan where lots of things have to work A) He needs to have a weak hand B ) He also need to fold them. It kinda sucks to build a pot in a empty side pot with the plan to bluff it home on later streets.
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Old 10-27-2007, 07:10 AM
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Default Re: AK 3 barrel deep stacked

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I don't like a plan where lots of things have to work A) He needs to have a weak hand B ) He also need to fold them. It kinda sucks to build a pot in a empty side pot with the plan to bluff it home on later streets.

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We have the best hand VERY often, and when we dont we could probably make him fold his weak hands since he should expect us to be strong when we bet into an empty sidepot.

Also, even if we get called on the flop we could still improve our hand on the turn. Its an easy bet imo.
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:05 AM
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Default Re: AK 3 barrel deep stacked

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I don't like a plan where lots of things have to work A) He needs to have a weak hand B ) He also need to fold them. It kinda sucks to build a pot in a empty side pot with the plan to bluff it home on later streets.

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We have the best hand VERY often, and when we dont we could probably make him fold his weak hands since he should expect us to be strong when we bet into an empty sidepot.

Also, even if we get called on the flop we could still improve our hand on the turn. Its an easy bet imo.

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Hm, you are usually right so perhaps it's a bet after all. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:13 AM
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Default Re: AK 3 barrel deep stacked

Why not reraise pre against the shortstack? I hate your line in this hand, especially when he donks river.
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Old 10-27-2007, 08:19 AM
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Default Re: AK 3 barrel deep stacked

We cant reraise preflop..
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: AK 3 barrel deep stacked

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We cant reraise preflop..

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this is a good reason to raise to 20 instead of 22 if you think of it.

i think villain often has Tx and is blocking the river, but i still think you should just check it down from the flop on. then the turn bet is terrible and the river push is bad.
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Old 10-27-2007, 01:04 PM
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Default Re: AK 3 barrel deep stacked

Given the way villain played this hand I'm going to assume he's a big fish, and trying to run big bluffs on really fishy players is usually lighting money on fire....especially loose passive ones.
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