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Old 07-06-2007, 11:47 PM
Haplo Haplo is offline
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Default Make flush on turn..and I\'m raised...Now what??????

Villain is 30/2/2 in 90 hands.

Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.50/$1
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $103.10
UTG+1: $148.80
MP1: $93.50
MP2: $105.15
MP3: $30.40
CO: $137.05
Button: $114.75
SB: $45.20
Hero: $109.50

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

Flop: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2.3</font>, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises to $6.6</font>, CO calls, SB folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ($23.8, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $15</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">CO raises to $30</font>, Hero??????

What is HERO'S action?
Thanks.
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Old 07-06-2007, 11:56 PM
RyanCMU RyanCMU is offline
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Default Re: Make flush on turn..and I\'m raised...Now what??????

Shove
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Old 07-07-2007, 12:33 AM
LadyWrestler LadyWrestler is offline
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Default Re: Make flush on turn..and I\'m raised...Now what??????

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Shove

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Old 07-07-2007, 12:46 AM
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Default Re: Make flush on turn..and I\'m raised...Now what??????

call and evaluate the river... call a reasonable bet
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Old 07-07-2007, 01:11 AM
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Default Re: Make flush on turn..and I\'m raised...Now what??????

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Shove

[/ QUOTE ]Why? Isn't it obvious he has a bigger flush?
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Old 07-07-2007, 01:25 AM
Pokerdemic Pokerdemic is offline
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Default Re: Make flush on turn..and I\'m raised...Now what??????

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Shove

[/ QUOTE ]Why? Isn't it obvious he has a bigger flush?

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would he raise flop with flush draw?
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Old 07-07-2007, 02:29 AM
jhill3535 jhill3535 is offline
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I shove, I think that it is very likely that he has a set here given his play. If we both flopped a flush draw and I bet and he raise on the draw and we both hit on the turn, then one of us is cold decked IMO.
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Old 07-07-2007, 02:44 AM
Bianculli Bianculli is offline
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I shove, I think that it is very likely that he has a set here given his play. If we both flopped a flush draw and I bet and he raise on the draw and we both hit on the turn, then one of us is cold decked IMO.

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MP1 raised and CO cold called on the turn. Then CO raises on river. I fold.
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Old 07-07-2007, 03:20 AM
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Man I don't really like any options here. Shoving is really really bad though imo. 5c6c and 8c9c both would make a little sense for an average villain, but once you add in all the AcXc combos and JcQc then I think you're beat a lot of the time. I can't ever see him showing up with anything other than a flush though so I guess pokerstove against that range. My guess is its not pretty. I probably call and then c/f to a river bet, but if I think he would fire a worse flush again then I'd just fold now.

Why did you lead the turn instead of c/r or c/c? Your line looks like a huge hand and shoving is basically turning your hand into a bluff and thats pretty bad in this spot.
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Old 07-07-2007, 01:58 PM
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Man I don't really like any options here. Shoving is really really bad though imo. 5c6c and 8c9c both would make a little sense for an average villain, but once you add in all the AcXc combos and JcQc then I think you're beat a lot of the time. I can't ever see him showing up with anything other than a flush though so I guess pokerstove against that range. My guess is its not pretty. I probably call and then c/f to a river bet, but if I think he would fire a worse flush again then I'd just fold now.

Why did you lead the turn instead of c/r or c/c? Your line looks like a huge hand and shoving is basically turning your hand into a bluff and thats pretty bad in this spot.

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I bet out because I wanted to bet for value and hope to get a call. I didn't want to check-raise because I wasn't sure anybody would bet with the scare card--if I check, they might not bet, and another club could come on the river which wouldn't make me happy.
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