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#21
09-18-2007, 08:12 AM
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Re: $.05/$.10, 6-max: How do I play this flop?
IMO, it's better to only start playing 6-max at 0.5/1 and above on PokerStars because of the effect of the rake. But back to the hand - I like check-raising here, because I think there is a decent chance someone will bet this flop. If you know that from earlier hands your opponents are not betting this flop without at least a pair, then I prefer leading out.
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#23
09-18-2007, 01:26 PM
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Re: $.05/$.10, 6-max: How do I play this flop?
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IMO, it's better to only start playing 6-max at 0.5/1 and above on PokerStars because of the effect of the rake. But back to the hand - I like check-raising here, because I think there is a decent chance someone will bet this flop. If you know that from earlier hands your opponents are not betting this flop without at least a pair, then I prefer leading out. [/ QUOTE ] Do you have any math to back this up? At first glance, I'd say you are crazy... and that the games are way good enough (ie players bad enough) at < .5/1 that the rake is more than covered. Even at 6max, you should end up paying less than your fair share of rake if the game is the typical uber loose 6max game.... and if it is w/t, then the rake hits you more, but you have an advantage there as well obviously.
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#24
09-18-2007, 02:23 PM
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Re: $.05/$.10, 6-max: How do I play this flop?
play the level you're rolled for. waiting til .5/1 is ridic if you don't have a few hundred dollars. also worse players more than make up for worse rake.
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#25
09-19-2007, 03:58 AM
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Re: $.05/$.10, 6-max: How do I play this flop?
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You "fold preflop" guys need to stop being such huge nits. Folding anything playable getting 11:1 with idiots in the pot is ridiculous. [/ QUOTE ] Um, Hero has 75o. That's barely playable even at these levels, especially from the SB. I play this game and I dump this crap preflop without a second thought. Of course, now that OP is in this spot, you lead out, and you should 3-bet because you've got the best hand, but it's very vulnerable and you really don't want to see another card.
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#26
09-19-2007, 05:21 AM
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Re: $.05/$.10, 6-max: How do I play this flop?
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Um, Hero has 75o. That's barely playable even at these levels, especially from the SB. I play this game and I dump this crap preflop without a second thought. [/ QUOTE ] Then you are leaving money at the table. Go find out what your odds are to flop 2 pair or better. Then add in all the times you will flop an OESD or a pair + a gutshot. Seriously! Dont fold anything playable with those odds.
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#27
09-19-2007, 05:42 AM
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Re: $.05/$.10, 6-max: How do I play this flop?
I agree with Oink et al. Just as long as one is has an idea to what their minimum standards are to continue after the flop then you can def make money here....esp at 6max where people lurve to payoff. implied odds ftw.....fwiw imho any case not to play here prob should include reads that villians are NOT going to ship monies to hero if hero hits.
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#28
09-19-2007, 07:08 PM
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Re: $.05/$.10, 6-max: How do I play this flop?
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[ QUOTE ] Um, Hero has 75o. That's barely playable even at these levels, especially from the SB. I play this game and I dump this crap preflop without a second thought. [/ QUOTE ] Then you are leaving money at the table. Go find out what your odds are to flop 2 pair or better. Then add in all the times you will flop an OESD or a pair + a gutshot. Seriously! Dont fold anything playable with those odds. [/ QUOTE ] --- 11,537,960 games 440.297 secs 26,204 games/sec Board: Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 12.850% 11.65% 01.20% 1344292 138378.25 { 7c5s } Hand 1: 17.431% 16.16% 01.27% 1864181 146991.17 { random } Hand 2: 17.415% 16.14% 01.28% 1862142 147166.25 { random } Hand 3: 17.440% 16.16% 01.28% 1864786 147380.75 { random } Hand 4: 17.443% 16.17% 01.27% 1865611 146909.42 { random } Hand 5: 17.422% 16.15% 01.27% 1863394 146728.17 { random } So that's our equity against five random hands, which I think is what we have to assume we're up against, since we don't have any reads. Here's an article from the PokerStove site with charts for this exact situation, which tell us that we have an 11% chance of improving on the flop. Getting 11:1 in this limped family pot, this is actually probably the only situation we should be playing this hand. (I'd still like better cards, though.)
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