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Old 05-30-2007, 05:39 PM
Gardekorps Gardekorps is offline
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Default QQ against callingstation

Hi,

villain is a loose callingstation and I've never seen him raising a PP<99.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

UTG ($112.60)
MP ($8.55)
CO ($14.75)
Hero ($27.55)
SB ($24.75)
BB ($16.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG calls $2.

Flop: ($6.35) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4</font>, UTG calls $4.

Turn: ($14.35) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $8</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $105.6</font>, Hero...
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: QQ against callingstation

If your range is 99+ your ahead here enough for you to call given that you have a bunch of money in there already I think it's a fairly standard call it's not like a draw got there or anything.
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Old 05-30-2007, 05:49 PM
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Default Re: QQ against callingstation

Pot flop so you can push turn. Call as played of course, you are pot stuck.
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:05 PM
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Default Re: QQ against callingstation

Players that amass such huge stacks in nl25 are frequently luckboxes and not very good in general.

I call this any day of the weak. I very much doubt that he wont 3bet AA/KK preflop. I wouldn't be surprised to see some kind of Ax hand here. This is almost certainly a bluff.
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:12 PM
Shizzle12345 Shizzle12345 is offline
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call me stupid but i would fold here. Ofcourse your ahead of his range, but this push kinda gives it away (if this is a pssive calling station). I guess he turns over something like K2 when you call. If its a true calling station i dont think this is a bluff??

This is my experience with it atleast, i used to think insta call too, but i want them to call me and not to push into me. I lost alot on these kinda situations.

Also bet pot on the flop
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:14 PM
0uTpLaYeD 0uTpLaYeD is offline
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Default Re: QQ against callingstation

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call me stupid but i would fold here. Ofcourse your ahead of his range, but this push kinda gives it away (if this is a pssive calling station). I guess he turns over something like K2 when you call. If its a true calling station i dont think this is a bluff??

This is my experience with it atleast, i used to think insta call too, but i want them to call me and not to push into me. I lost alot on these kinda situations.

Also bet pot on the flop

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lol there is no way hero can fold on turn.......look at the stacks
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:19 PM
ajmargarine ajmargarine is offline
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I won't call you stupid, but you can never fold that there, given the action.
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Old 05-30-2007, 06:24 PM
Shizzle12345 Shizzle12345 is offline
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Default Re: QQ against callingstation

well i had quite alot of similar situations vs my biggest stations in my list, and almost always turned over 2 pair or trips or better. KK vs 2nd 3 on turn, he had K3. Or 67 vs my set, with his 7 on the turn making top 2 or gutshot, etc etc. But depends kinda what kinda stations they are. But if theyr really passive and suddenly start getting aggro, usually overpair is no good, and im gone. Ur getting plenty more good spots vs them.

But if everyone disagrees i guess im wrong :P
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:45 PM
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Default Re: QQ against callingstation

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call me stupid but i would fold here. Ofcourse your ahead of his range, but this push kinda gives it away (if this is a pssive calling station). I guess he turns over something like K2 when you call. If its a true calling station i dont think this is a bluff??

This is my experience with it atleast, i used to think insta call too, but i want them to call me and not to push into me. I lost alot on these kinda situations.

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I think this is right. Against a callingstation that likes to throw some big bluffs into the mix I call, but against a true calling station that only gets this agro when they have a hand I fold, I don't care if I only have $12 left in my stack, they have trips too often.
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Old 05-30-2007, 08:40 PM
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Default Re: QQ against callingstation

You are pot committed with only $12 left, you have to call and hope he flips 99/TT/JJ
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