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Old 02-02-2007, 07:14 AM
pena pena is offline
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Default .5/1 top pair on 3-flush flop

opp is Loose-passive-aggressive (30/0/2.4)

Top pair on dangerous flop.
I should fold at least on turn, right?

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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, 5 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (7SB, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (5.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="green">Opp thinks quite a long time and finally bets.
I've noticed, it's tell player might be holding a good hand, but some reason I never trust it.
</font><font color="#cc0000"> UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (7.5BB, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 9.5BB
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Old 02-02-2007, 07:33 AM
fretelöo fretelöo is offline
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Default Re: .5/1 top pair on 3-flush flop

I think it's better to just call the flop and raise a safe-looking turn, but in any case, your line is at least ok. Calling down here is definitely fine, I think.

Edit: Well, what does he limp with UTG? Probably some suited face cards? PP? Does he raise here with K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]? or A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]? So, ... I don't know...
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Old 02-02-2007, 07:46 AM
calidris calidris is offline
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Default Re: .5/1 top pair on 3-flush flop

crappy situation since there are basically no safe turn cards to hope for on the flop. c/c flop and you still don't know anything when UTG bets turn. This looks like one of these situations where you simply have to lay down TPTK. I don't know if it's +EV to go onto a call down trip on this flop.

Turn card helps because now you got 4 outs to beat a flush but pot odds alone doesn't justify calling so it boils down to if you think TPTK is good enough times on the river to make up for that.
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Old 02-02-2007, 07:50 AM
calidris calidris is offline
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Default Re: .5/1 top pair on 3-flush flop

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Opp thinks quite a long time and finally bets.
I've noticed, it's tell player might be holding a good hand, but some reason I never trust it.

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Or, he's scared that you're slowplaying a made flush and is going for a c/r on the turn.
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Old 02-02-2007, 07:56 AM
fretelöo fretelöo is offline
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Default Re: .5/1 top pair on 3-flush flop

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Opp thinks quite a long time and finally bets.
I've noticed, it's tell player might be holding a good hand, but some reason I never trust it.

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Or, he's scared that you're slowplaying a made flush and is going for a c/r on the turn.

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Well, if he's scared, he either has a lower flush or doens't have one at all. The time that he has a flush and is scared of a higher one are so rare, that I don't think anyone will fear that if the board doesn't bring a fourth [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Any non-heart is a safe card on the turn.
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Old 02-02-2007, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: .5/1 top pair on 3-flush flop

i 3bet the flop OOP against an aggressive opponent. folding TPTK here would be a significant mistake.
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Old 02-02-2007, 03:26 PM
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Default Re: .5/1 top pair on 3-flush flop

If he really is aggro, i 3bet the flop.
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